Imagining Multiple Ringworlds Around a Star - Is it Possible?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of constructing multiple Niven ring megastructures around a star, exploring both the theoretical implications and the perceived gravity of such structures. Participants engage with the concept from various angles, including technical, conceptual, and speculative perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the plausibility of multiple ringworlds, with one noting that even a single ringworld seems preposterous but not necessarily impossible.
  • It is suggested that if the rings have different diameters, they could achieve the same perceived gravity by spinning at different speeds.
  • Questions are raised about the mass of each ring and their gravitational interactions, with references to the significant surface area of a single ringworld and the implications of having multiple such structures.
  • Participants mention the historical context of the idea, referencing Larry Niven's writings on mega-structures, including an article from 1974 that discusses various types of such constructs.
  • One participant introduces a creative concept of the rings being a single continuous band woven into a Celtic knot, indicating a more imaginative approach to the idea.
  • There is acknowledgment of the challenges in providing a perceivable gravity on the surface of the ring megastructures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express a mix of skepticism and curiosity about the concept of multiple ringworlds, with no consensus on their feasibility or the specifics of their construction and functionality. Various competing views and speculative ideas remain present throughout the discussion.

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Limitations include uncertainties regarding the mass and gravitational effects of multiple rings, as well as the practical applications or necessity of such vast structures. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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Every time I see the sun that hangs over the map of Westeros (https://i.stack.imgur.com/pqf90.jpg) I find myself imaging a system of Niven ring megastructures around a star. I know it's preposterous, but just how preposterous is it?

Also, if it is remotely hypothetically plausible, would the rings have similar perceived gravity (assuming they were all similar in construction)?
 
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1) Personally, I'd rate it as preposterous but then I'd rate a single ringworld as preposterous (but perhaps not technically impossible; I'm not sure)
2) They have different diameters but if spun at different speeds they could all have the same perceived gravity
 
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How much mass does each ring have? Are they within the gravity well of another ring? IIRC Ringworld had a surface area of 600,000,000,000 square kilometers. Multiple ringworlds would have a multiple of that number. What would we do with all that space? Why would we need all that space?

Pretty picture, and there are things similar your idea on Deviant Art. Might look there for some ideas?
 
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Niven wrote an article for Analog in 1974, which was later included in his anthology "A Hole in Space", which was titled "Bigger Than Worlds", in which he discusses a number of different types of mega-structures.
 
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Janus said:
Niven wrote an article for Analog in 1974, which was later included in his anthology "A Hole in Space", which was titled "Bigger Than Worlds", in which he discusses a number of different types of mega-structures.
He noted in the preface to Ringworld Engineers that engineering students, at one of the comicons, had been chanting in the halls, "The Ringworld is unstable!" :cool:
 
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Janus said:
Niven wrote an article for Analog in 1974, which was later included in his anthology "A Hole in Space", which was titled "Bigger Than Worlds", in which he discusses a number of different types of mega-structures.

I like the Cosmic Macaroni idea. Maybe the multiple rings are a single continuous band woven into a Celtic knot.
 
The ring megastructure is quite possible. The difficulty is giving the surface a perceivable gravity.
 

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