Impact and Damage from falling from a bridge into water

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the impact and damage to a body falling from a bridge into water, specifically comparing still water to water with waves. Participants explore the physics of the fall, including acceleration, momentum, and the effects on internal organs during impact. The conversation also considers methods to reduce the force of impact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the calculations for impact force when falling from a height of 25 feet or more into water, considering factors such as body orientation and the potential for injury.
  • Others propose that creating air bubbles in the water could reduce impact force by decreasing water density and drag, thereby extending the time of impact.
  • Participants discuss the effects of waves on impact, suggesting that waves may similarly extend the duration of the collision with the water, potentially mitigating injury.
  • There is a focus on how the fall affects internal organs, which are traveling at the same velocity as the body, raising questions about the dynamics of the impact.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the orientation of the body upon impact is a significant variable, but multiple competing views remain regarding the effectiveness of different methods to reduce impact force, such as using aerated water or waves.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the need for specific calculations regarding force and momentum, as well as assumptions about the conditions of the water and the diver's body orientation at impact.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals studying physics, engineering, or safety in high diving and related activities, as well as those curious about the biomechanics of falls into water.

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If an average adult male fell from a bridge (ex. golden gate) what would be the impact on his body when he hit still water versus water with waves. What is his acceleration, momentum, and his change of momentum when he hits the water


With these in mind how does the fall affect his organs which are traveling at the same velocity of his body?
 
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CCphysics said:
If an average adult male fell from a bridge (ex. golden gate) what would be the impact on his body when he hit still water versus water with waves. What is his acceleration, momentum, and his change of momentum when he hits the water


With these in mind how does the fall affect his organs which are traveling at the same velocity of his body?

What is the context of your question?
 
We want to know how much is the force (or how to calculate the force) of impact on a body falling from a 25ft bridge or higher into water. And if there is any possible way to reduce that force to something that will cause little to no bodily injury. for example if creating air bubble or creating waves will that reduce the force and by how much?


Context can be, a 180 lbs 6' male has decided to go to a 25 ft suspended bridge and jump off into still water. What affects occur on his body by jumping, and what ways can he reduce these negative affects while in the air and/or on impact to stay alive and unhurt.
 
CCphysics said:
We want to know how much is the force (or how to calculate the force) of impact on a body falling from a 25ft bridge or higher into water. And if there is any possible way to reduce that force to something that will cause little to no bodily injury. for example if creating air bubble or creating waves will that reduce the force and by how much?


Context can be, a 180 lbs 6' male has decided to go to a 25 ft suspended bridge and jump off into still water. What affects occur on his body by jumping, and what ways can he reduce these negative affects while in the air and/or on impact to stay alive and unhurt.

Land feet first, arms crossed?
 
Yes, the vast majority of your variables are going to involve his orientation when he hits the water.
 
Competition divers use aerated water in the diving pools for high dives (a big bubble machine is switched on just before the dive). If the water has a lot of bubbles in it (say 20% by volume) then the density of the water will be 0.8 of water. That will mean less mass to collide with initially. Also the drag will be a bit less - reducing the force by extending the time to reduce speed. Both factors must be significant.
The presence of waves will have a similar effect of extending the time of the initial impact - all good stuff.
 

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