Implementing angular momentum approach in problem

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An object in uniform circular motion is analyzed as its chord length is halved while maintaining constant tension. The discussion reveals that while angular momentum is often conserved, the constant tension implies that the object's speed must decrease as it moves inward, leading to the conclusion that the tangential speed decreases to 0.7v. Participants express frustration over the misleading nature of the question, noting that it lacks clarity on the assumptions regarding tension and motion. The consensus emphasizes the importance of carefully interpreting the problem's conditions to arrive at the correct solution. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of applying angular momentum principles in dynamic systems.
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Homework Statement


An object is in uniform circular horizontal motion at the end of a chord of length L. Its tangential speed is v. The chord is pulled into length 0.5L in such a way that the tension in the chord remains constant. As a result, the tangential speed:

a) remains constant
b) increases to 2v
c) decreases to 0.5v
d) increases to 1.4v
e) decreases to 0.7v

Homework Equations


The correct answer is E.
This can be solved using T = m * v^2/r approach. I get this, and I know how this works.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's what I though initially: we do not have any net torques on the system [using an analogy of planetary motion around the sun, where angular momentum is conserved, substituting Tension force for gravitational force], so angular momentum has to be conserved.

Thus:

Li = Lf
[m*v*r]i = [m*v*r]f

I eliminate the m's, and then plug:
v*L = x * 0.5 L
thus x = 2v, which is b, an incorrect answer.

Could anyone please explain why this approach is incorrect?

Thanks in advance for the assistance!
 
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RoboNerd said:
Could anyone please explain why this approach is incorrect?

Thanks in advance for the assistance!

If the tension in the chord doesn't change, why would the object move in?

Try to imagine actually carrying out this experiment.
 
PeroK said:
If the tension in the chord doesn't change, why would the object move in?

Object moves in because it slows down?
 
RoboNerd said:
Object moves in because it slows down?

So, someone would have to slow it down in this experiment. If they didn't, the tension would necessarily increase.

This is another slighly disengenuous question, where you are being caught out by what is not said in the question!
 
PeroK said:
This is another slighly disengenuous question, where you are being caught out by what is not said in the question!
The authors write really crummy questions. I have been dealing with them for the past 1.5 days now :-/
 
RoboNerd said:
The authors write really crummy questions. I have been dealing with them for the past 1.5 days now :-/

Personally, I don't like this sort of question. But, perhaps it's good not to assume that everything is in the question. Or, at least to analyse the question more. My initial thought was: that's not right, the tension must increase to pull the object in. Then I realized what was intended.
 
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