Implementing angular momentum approach in problem

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The problem involves an object in uniform circular motion being subjected to a change in the length of the chord while maintaining constant tension. Participants are discussing the implications of this scenario on the object's tangential speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the conservation of angular momentum and questioning the assumptions regarding tension and motion. There is a discussion about whether the object must slow down as the chord length decreases and the implications of constant tension.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the validity of the original poster's reasoning and the assumptions made in the problem statement. Some participants express frustration with the clarity of the question and suggest that it may be misleading.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern about the lack of information in the problem statement, particularly regarding the relationship between tension and the object's motion. Participants are reflecting on the nature of the question and its potential ambiguities.

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Homework Statement


An object is in uniform circular horizontal motion at the end of a chord of length L. Its tangential speed is v. The chord is pulled into length 0.5L in such a way that the tension in the chord remains constant. As a result, the tangential speed:

a) remains constant
b) increases to 2v
c) decreases to 0.5v
d) increases to 1.4v
e) decreases to 0.7v

Homework Equations


The correct answer is E.
This can be solved using T = m * v^2/r approach. I get this, and I know how this works.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's what I though initially: we do not have any net torques on the system [using an analogy of planetary motion around the sun, where angular momentum is conserved, substituting Tension force for gravitational force], so angular momentum has to be conserved.

Thus:

Li = Lf
[m*v*r]i = [m*v*r]f

I eliminate the m's, and then plug:
v*L = x * 0.5 L
thus x = 2v, which is b, an incorrect answer.

Could anyone please explain why this approach is incorrect?

Thanks in advance for the assistance!
 
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RoboNerd said:
Could anyone please explain why this approach is incorrect?

Thanks in advance for the assistance!

If the tension in the chord doesn't change, why would the object move in?

Try to imagine actually carrying out this experiment.
 
PeroK said:
If the tension in the chord doesn't change, why would the object move in?

Object moves in because it slows down?
 
RoboNerd said:
Object moves in because it slows down?

So, someone would have to slow it down in this experiment. If they didn't, the tension would necessarily increase.

This is another slighly disengenuous question, where you are being caught out by what is not said in the question!
 
PeroK said:
This is another slighly disengenuous question, where you are being caught out by what is not said in the question!
The authors write really crummy questions. I have been dealing with them for the past 1.5 days now :-/
 
RoboNerd said:
The authors write really crummy questions. I have been dealing with them for the past 1.5 days now :-/

Personally, I don't like this sort of question. But, perhaps it's good not to assume that everything is in the question. Or, at least to analyse the question more. My initial thought was: that's not right, the tension must increase to pull the object in. Then I realized what was intended.
 

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