Implications of Movement Greater than Speed of Light?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications and theoretical considerations of particles moving faster than the speed of light. Participants explore concepts related to superluminal movement, tachyons, and the effects of relativistic physics, particularly time dilation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant is researching the behavior of particles at speeds greater than light and is seeking relevant papers, noting a lack of information specifically on particles traveling faster than light.
  • Another participant suggests that finding papers on particles traveling faster than light may be difficult, as it is generally accepted to be impossible.
  • Participants mention tachyons as a speculative concept, with some pointing to legitimate research papers and Wikipedia references, while others express uncertainty about their validity.
  • There is a discussion about the difference between "superluminal movement" and "travel faster than the speed of light," with one participant clarifying that they initially conflated the two terms.
  • One participant recalls reading about excitations of fields with imaginary mass, suggesting that localized excitations move slower than light, while faster-than-light excitations cannot be localized.
  • A participant describes the effect of time dilation, stating that as one approaches the speed of light, they appear to move slower to a stationary observer, and speculates on the implications of exceeding the speed of light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of particles traveling faster than light, with some accepting it as impossible while others explore speculative theories like tachyons. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications and validity of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of superluminal movement and the conditions under which particles might exceed the speed of light. Some claims about tachyons and field excitations are not fully substantiated within the thread.

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I'm doing some research trying to find behavior of particles at speeds faster than light. I'm wondering if anyone knows if there are any papers on this, as I can't seem to find any except for papers on superluminal movement rather than what happens when particles actually travel faster than the speed of light.
 
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Have you heard about tachyons? They're highly speculative, but some legitimate research papers have been written about them. The Wikipedia article has references.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon
 
danielu13 said:
[...]I can't seem to find any except for papers on superluminal movement rather than what happens when particles actually travel faster than the speed of light.

What is the difference between "superluminal movement" and "travel faster than the speed of light?" To me these sound like the same thing.
 
DrewD said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation

but I doubt you will find anything about particles traveling faster than [itex]c[/itex] since it is quite generally accepted to be impossible.

Thanks, I will look into this.

jtbell said:
Have you heard about tachyons? They're highly speculative, but some legitimate research papers have been written about them. The Wikipedia article has references.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon

I stumbled upon those a little while ago, but some kind of wording seemed to suggest that they have been disproven. I will look more into them though. Thanks!

bcrowell said:
What is the difference between "superluminal movement" and "travel faster than the speed of light?" To me these sound like the same thing.

I just checked and they are indeed the same thing. I was thinking of superluminal movement as movement that appears to be faster than the speed of light in the reference frame of an observer but is never actually moving faster than the speed of light at any point in space. My apologies.
 
jtbell said:
Have you heard about tachyons? They're highly speculative, but some legitimate research papers have been written about them. The Wikipedia article has references.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon

If you're talking about excitations of fields with imaginary mass,I remember reading somewhere that any localized excitations of such fields moves slower than light and any excitations which moves faster than light can't be localized
I don't remember where it was but I guess you can find it if you search and I should tell that it contained some kind of a proof
 
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The effect of time dilation means that for a still observer the faster you go the more in slow motion you appear to him. At the speed of light you appear completely frozen. Past the speed of light ...you know what happens by now.
 

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