Implicit Differentiation Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the slope of the tangent line at a point on the curve defined by the equation √x + √y = 1. The original poster expresses confusion regarding implicit differentiation, which has not been covered in their coursework.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the concept of implicit differentiation and the original poster's lack of familiarity with it. There are attempts to clarify the differentiation process, particularly regarding the derivative of y² with respect to x.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring foundational concepts related to implicit differentiation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation of y², but there is no consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that their class has been disrupted by a substitute teacher, leading to gaps in their understanding of the material, including the chain rule and Leibniz notation.

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Homework Statement



The P(a,b) be a point on the curve √x + √y = 1. Show that the slope of the tangent P is -√b/a


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The Attempt at a Solution



Apparently this is an implicit differentiation problem, however we haven't learned or discussed implicit differentiation at all.

I ran it through wolfram alpha to help give an idea of what to do and got the answer I was supposed to, but looking at the process I don't understand it at all.

It's here: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=the implicit derivative of sqrt x + sqrt y = 1

Is there any other way to solve this? If not, can anyone explain the first few steps, or link me to the solution of a similar problem?
Thanks!
 
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gerard.caleb said:

Homework Statement



The P(a,b) be a point on the curve √x + √y = 1. Show that the slope of the tangent P is -√b/a


Homework Equations



?

The Attempt at a Solution



Apparently this is an implicit differentiation problem, however we haven't learned or discussed implicit differentiation at all.

I ran it through wolfram alpha to help give an idea of what to do and got the answer I was supposed to, but looking at the process I don't understand it at all.

It's here: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=the implicit derivative of sqrt x + sqrt y = 1

Is there any other way to solve this? If not, can anyone explain the first few steps, or link me to the solution of a similar problem?
Thanks!

Yes, this is an implicit differentiation problem. You had not done it?

Ok, before we begin, let's see if you can do this. If you can, then you are ready to proceed.

You have to differentiate y2 with respect to x.

d(y2)/dx=_______________...

What will you write in this blank? Assume that y2 changes with x.
 
Thank you for your response!

Nope, we haven't done much of anything. We've had a substitute this entire unit and unfortunately none of them have been able to teach us much beyond the first basic rules.

d(y^2)/dx= 1/2y ?
We haven't done anything using Leibniz notation either, so I'm sorry if that's incorrect.
 
gerard.caleb said:
Thank you for your response!

Nope, we haven't done much of anything. We've had a substitute this entire unit and unfortunately none of them have been able to teach us much beyond the first basic rules.

d(y^2)/dx= 1/2y ?
We haven't done anything using Leibniz notation either, so I'm sorry if that's incorrect.

I'm afraid that is incorrect. :redface:

So I assume you have not done chain rule also. Let's take another try.

Let y=(x2+2)2
Then dy/dx=____________??

What will you write in the blank ?

Note: You have to find dy/dx without doing the expansion of y.
 

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