Importance of grad school being much different than undergrad

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The discussion revolves around the importance of attending a graduate school that is significantly different from one's undergraduate institution. Participants explore the implications of school choice, personal experiences, and the perceived benefits or drawbacks of such a transition.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that attending a different school can provide valuable insights into varying educational approaches and definitions of success.
  • Others argue that there is no substantial reason to prioritize a different school, viewing the notion as a myth.
  • A participant mentions that their experience at different institutions has highlighted the differences in how success is defined, using MIT and UT Austin as examples.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of reapplying if the only acceptance is to a school similar to the undergraduate institution, with some suggesting that it may not be worth it.
  • There is a recognition that many successful graduates come from both similar and different educational backgrounds, indicating that outcomes may not be strictly tied to the choice of institution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and benefits of attending a graduate school that is much different from one's undergraduate institution. No consensus is reached, as some advocate for the benefits of diversity in educational experience while others dismiss the idea as unfounded.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific institutional policies, such as MIT's stance on admitting its own undergraduates into its graduate program, which may influence perspectives on school choice.

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For those of you who are currently in, or have finished, grad school, how important would you say it is to attend a school that is MUCH different than your undergrad? I ask this because I've always heard one should attend a school different from your undergrad. But I got into a school that is very similar to my undergrad in its geographic proximity and weather (its only a couple hrs away), type of students, and school structure (ie both are large state schools). I would have liked to been admitted to a much different school than my undergrad, but it didn't happen. There were definitely some things I didnt like about my undergrad, so I could see it happening at the new grad school. Is this one factor to consider for declining this school and reapplying? This is my only grad school acceptance with guaranteed funding
 
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I've never heard any good reason for going somewhere that much different than your undergraduate institution. As far as I'm concerned this is a myth.
 
The only real benefit is that you get to experience something different. Its not like it will hinder your job search when you finish grad school.
 
fss said:
I've never heard any good reason for going somewhere that much different than your undergraduate institution.

Based on my experiences, it is a very good idea. I went to an undergraduate and graduate school that was completely different, and it's useful to see how different schools do things differently, and what works and what doesn't.

On the other hand, if you don't have much choice, then you don't have choice. I don't think it's so important that you should reapply.
 
twofish-quant said:
Based on my experiences, it is a very good idea. I went to an undergraduate and graduate school that was completely different, and it's useful to see how different schools do things differently, and what works and what doesn't.

How would you know it's useful to go somewhere different, since you've only seen one side of the coin? Plenty of successful graduates come from either situation.
 
fss said:
How would you know it's useful to go somewhere different, since you've only seen one side of the coin?

One note here is that the MIT physics department makes it a very strong policy not to admit their own undergraduates into their graduate physics program. Feyman mentions this policy in his books.

I do know people who have spent most of their careers at MIT in other departments, and I've noticed that I see things that they don't because I've been outside of the Institute.

Plenty of successful graduates come from either situation.

Sure, which is why this is merely a "good thing" rather than an "stop everything that you are doing" sort of thing.

To give an example of how going to different schools is useful. MIT and UT Austin define "success" in fundamentally different ways. If you are really good at football and use your social skills to sell used cars, then this would be more of a "success" under the UT Austin definition than MIT. If you invent something new and original, start a business that fails, that would be more of a "success" under the MIT definition than the UT Austin definition.

If you've only been to one school, you'll likely only see that one schools definition of "success" and so you don't think about the fact that there are multiple definitions, and you don't think quite as much about what "success" means.
 
twofish-quant said:
To give an example of how going to different schools is useful. MIT and UT Austin define "success" in fundamentally different ways. If you are really good at football and use your social skills to sell used cars, then this would be more of a "success" under the UT Austin definition than MIT. If you invent something new and original, start a business that fails, that would be more of a "success" under the MIT definition than the UT Austin definition.


Haha, I like the MIT definition a lot more than UT's.
 

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