Importance of Intelligence in science

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The discussion revolves around the role of intelligence and hard work in achieving success in science, particularly neuroscience. Participants explore personal experiences and perceptions regarding intelligence, the impact of self-doubt, and the importance of developing a strong work ethic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a belief that they have been perceived as intelligent but has not worked hard, leading to doubts about their abilities after a concussion.
  • Another participant argues that while intelligence is necessary for success in science, hard work is significantly more important, suggesting that raw intelligence alone is insufficient.
  • A participant raises two questions about assessing one's intelligence and learning to work hard, indicating a struggle with these concepts.
  • One reply suggests that there is no definitive test for intelligence, and that personal interest and effort in coursework can be indicators of suitability for a scientific path.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of healing from a concussion before reassessing cognitive abilities, suggesting that health should take precedence over academic concerns.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that hard work is crucial for success in science, but there is no consensus on how intelligence should be assessed or its relative importance compared to hard work. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the balance between intelligence and effort.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about their own intelligence and the skills required for success, highlighting the subjective nature of these assessments. There are also references to personal health issues that may affect cognitive performance.

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I’ve constantly been informed that I am smart, if not brilliant by everyone around me. Unfortuantely for me, I’ve always believed that, and have never worked hard as a result, managing to get good grades without any work, which has further influenced my perception of myself. Recently, however, I have sustained a concussion, and realized that I am not as intelligent as I thought I was. I am completely infatuated eith the mechanisms of the brain, and have always wished to be a neuroscientist, but now am experiencing serious doubts. In short, what is the required intelligence for success in science, especially neuroscience? If I learn to work hard, would that absolve me of failure in science as a result of my sudden self-doubts about my intelligence?
 
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I'm not saying people with mental retardation can be successful in science, so intelligence is definitely a necessary factor. But in my opinion it's a very small factor. Hard work is a much more important factor. You can be the most intelligent person around, if you don't do the work you'll get nowhere. Hard work is much much more important than just raw intelligence.

Sure, with intelligence you can get through courses very easily. True. But that only last until a certain point. Every single person will hit a wall sooner or later where raw intelligence doesn't save them. The people who did not learn hard work usually are the first to drop out.
 
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I have two issues now:
1. How am I supposed to know if I am intelligent enough?
2. How do I learn to work hard? It's a skill that I have never required before, but now, caught in the throes of PCS, I must face the harsh truth.
 
  1. There is no litmus test, I'm afraid. You have to jump into the water and either sink or swim. The thing is though, most people can figure this out with a few classes. If you're struggling to keep up in your first year classes while putting forth your best effort, that might be a sign that you're not on the right path. But remember that everyone struggles a little bit. If graduate school is a realistic option for you, you don't need to be getting perfect scores in all of your classes, but you should be able to get high scores (As) in at least a few of them, and do moderately well (at least Bs) in the rest.

    Something else to pay attention to is your own interests. If you continue to be interested in the material despite struggling with it, that's a good sign. If you find you have to force yourself to pay attention and you're constantly taking every opportunity you can to think about other things, that's a bad sign.
  2. This is something you have to figure out for yourself. And by "hard" it's not necessarily something that has to be a struggle. You learn how to organize yourself and your schedule. Learn how to study efficiently. Take time to work through problem sets - not just the assigned ones, but the extra ones. Learn good test-taking strategies. On top of that there's the drive to get up early in the morning and crack the books when it would feel nicer to sleep in. You can't really learn that last part, I don't think. If you're on the right path, it's there more often than it's not.
 
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I’ve constantly been informed that I am smart, if not brilliant by everyone around me. Unfortuantely for me, I’ve always believed that, and have never worked hard as a result, managing to get good grades without any work, which has further influenced my perception of myself. Recently, however, I have sustained a concussion, and realized that I am not as intelligent as I thought I was. I am completely infatuated eith the mechanisms of the brain, and have always wished to be a neuroscientist, but now am experiencing serious doubts. In short, what is the required intelligence for success in science, especially neuroscience? If I learn to work hard, would that absolve me of failure in science as a result of my sudden self-doubts about my intelligence?
Most important for you is healing from your concussion. Your cognitive qualities can be reassessed later.
 
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