Improper Integrals and Series (convergence and divergence)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of convergence and divergence in improper integrals and infinite series. Participants explore the conditions under which these mathematical constructs converge to finite values or diverge, addressing both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that an improper integral converges if it has an infinite boundary and the limit yields a finite number, while a series diverges under similar conditions.
  • Another participant questions the reasoning behind the differing statements about series and integrals, indicating a potential misunderstanding.
  • A participant acknowledges a conceptual mistake regarding the interpretation of limits in infinite series, initially believing that a finite limit implied divergence due to constant terms being added indefinitely.
  • It is clarified that a finite limit in an infinite series indicates convergence, as the actual sum of the series is finite.
  • Another participant points out that divergence can occur through means other than yielding an infinite number, citing the alternating series as an example of divergence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between limits and convergence/divergence, with some clarifications made but no consensus reached on the initial claims regarding integrals and series.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions about the definitions of convergence and divergence, and the discussion reflects varying interpretations of limits in the context of series and integrals.

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Is it safe to say when an integral has an infinite boundary \int_n^∞ a_{n} and the limit yields a finite number, then the integral is said to converge.

And when a series has an upper limit of infinity \sum_n^{∞}a_{n} and the limit yields a finite number, then the series is said to diverge.
 
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If the limit of an infinite series yields a finite number, the series converges. Why would you say opposite things about series and integrals?
 
Oh, I made a conceptual mistake. I was thinking that if the limit of an infinite series yields a finite number, it meant that the terms of the series would "taper off" at some constant term. And that this constant term would be added up indefinitely, thus ∞ = divergent. For instance, if the limit of an infinite sequence yielded the finite number, 1/4, this meant:


a_{1}+ a_{2} + a_{3} + a_{4} + a_{5}...1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4... = ∞ , thus divergent


I understand now that the finite number, 1/4, in the limit of an infinite series means, that the actual sum of the series is a finite number, thus converges.

a_{1}+ a_{2} + a_{3} + a_{4} + a_{5}... = 1/4 ,thus convergent.

Thanks for the correction.
 
Note that "yielding an infinite number" is not the only way a series can diverge.
The series \sum_{n= 0}^\infty (-1)^n is also divergent.
 

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