Impulse and impulsive force and momentum

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The discussion centers on the concepts of impulse, impulsive force, and momentum, exploring their definitions, relationships, and applications in physics. Participants are examining the mathematical formulations and contextual usage of these terms, particularly in scenarios like a punch from a fighter.

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  • One participant asks for clarification on the differences between impulse and impulsive force, suggesting a potential confusion in their usage.
  • Another participant states that impulse (J) is defined as the change in momentum and provides a mathematical relationship involving force and time.
  • There is a question regarding the formula for impulse, with one participant proposing a specific equation that relates momentum and time.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the variables used in the proposed impulse formula, specifically asking about the meaning of "u".
  • One participant confirms that "u" represents initial velocity and "v" represents final velocity.
  • Another participant corrects the earlier formula by noting the absence of a factor of 1/t, reiterating the relationship between impulse and momentum.
  • A participant reiterates the definitions of impulse and impulsive force, providing a mathematical expression for impulsive force in terms of momentum and time.
  • One participant requests an example to illustrate the concepts of impulse and impulsive force.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding and interpretation of the relationships between impulse, impulsive force, and momentum. There is no clear consensus on the definitions or the correct usage of the terms, indicating ongoing debate and clarification.

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Some participants' formulas and definitions depend on specific interpretations of terms, and there are unresolved questions regarding the correct application of the concepts in different contexts.

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1)anyone tells me what is the differences between impulse and impulsive force??

2) impulsive force = force X time
momentum = mass X change in velocity
impulse force = momentum. i know why but i don't understand why impulsive force is same as momemtum, if i want to decribe something about the punch of the frighter, i should say impulsive force ?? and when i should say it is momentum not impulsive force??
 
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[tex]J = F\Delta t = ma\Delta t = m\frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t}\Delta t = m\Delta v = \Delta p[/tex] where J is the impulse. Impulse is the change in momentum not simply momentum =D.
 
for impulse formula is (mv-mu)/t ?
 
what is u in your formula?
 
u= initial velocity, v=final velocity
 
Your formula is fine except there is no factor of 1/t. It is simply, in accordance with your notation, J = mv - mu.
 
stupif said:
for impulse formula is (mv-mu)/t ?

Impulse is the change in momentum, and is given the symbol J.

Impulsive force is the force that acts to create the impulse, and has the symbol F.

[tex]\mathbf{J}=m\mathbf{v}-m\mathbf{v_0}=\mathbf{F}t[/tex]

So an equation for impulsive force would be what you posted above:

[tex]\mathbf{F}=\frac{m\mathbf{v}-m\mathbf{v_0}}{t}[/tex]
 
example for impulse and impulsive force?
 

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