Impulse and perfectly inelastic collision between 2 points

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the impulse and perfectly inelastic collision between two bodies, A and B. The key equations involved include the conservation of linear momentum, represented as ##\Delta P = J##, and the calculation of maximum height after the collision, given by ##h_{max}= h_{\text{initial}} + \frac {v_{A+B}^2 (\sin\theta)^2} {2g}##. The impulse applied to mass ##m_A## before the collision is critical for determining the components of the velocity ##v_{A+B}##. The participants clarify that during the collision, the impulse does not affect the momentum change, leading to ##\Delta P = 0##.

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Homework Statement
A body, of mass ## m_A = 2kg##, is initially at rest on the ground. ##A## is then subjected to a vertical instantaneous impulse of magnitude ##J = 10 Ns##. When ##A## has a velocity of ##v_A = 5m/s##, the body is struck in a perfectly inelastic collision by the body B. Knowing that ##m_B=0.2Kg## and that ##B## has a constant horizontal velocity, ##v_B= 5m/s##, determine:
1) ##h##
2) The energy lost in the collision
3) ##\theta##
4) The maximum height of ##A+B## after the collision
Relevant Equations
##\Delta P = I##
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The main thing about this problem is to find the components of the velocity, ##v_{A+B}##. To do that you have to use the conservation of linear momentum of the collision. In this case, since there is an impulse, I should have ##\Delta P = J##. But the impulse is given prior to the collision. Does this mean that ##\Delta P = 0## in the collision? That's the thing I don't understand.

After I figure that out, I know how to finish the problem:
1)I Already can determine ##h## by writing an energy balance from when ##A## is on the ground to the moment right before the collision with ##B##;
2) Energy lost = ##|\Delta E_{kinetic}|## ;
3) Once I have the components of ##v_{A+B}##, I can determine ##\theta## with trigonometry;
4) Max height, ## h_{max}= \frac {v_{A+B}^2 (\sin\theta)^2} {2g}##.
 
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Thermofox said:
Homework Statement: A body, of mass ## m_A = 2kg##, is initially at rest on the ground. ##A## is then subjected to a vertical instantaneous impulse of magnitude ##J = 10 Ns##. When ##A## has a velocity of ##v_A = 5m/s##, the body is struck in a perfectly inelastic collision by the body B. Knowing that ##m_B=0.2Kg## and that ##B## has a constant horizontal velocity, ##v_B= 5m/s##, determine:
1) ##h##
2) The energy lost in the collision
3) ##\theta##
4) The maximum height of ##A+B## after the collision
Relevant Equations: ##\Delta P = I##

View attachment 347751The main thing about this problem is to find the components of the velocity, ##v_{A+B}##. To do that you have to use the conservation of linear momentum of the collision. In this case, since there is an impulse, I should have ##\Delta P = J##. But the impulse is given prior to the collision. Does this mean that ##\Delta P = 0## in the collision? That's the thing I don't understand.

After I figure that out, I know how to finish the problem:
1)I Already can determine ##h## by writing an energy balance from when ##A## is on the ground to the moment right before the collision with ##B##;
2) Energy lost = ##|\Delta E_{kinetic}|## ;
3) Once I have the components of ##v_{A+B}##, I can determine ##\theta## with trigonometry;
4) Max height, ## h_{max}= \frac {v_{A+B}^2 (\sin\theta)^2} {2g}##.
The impulse ##J## they are talking about is applied only to mass ##m_A## (before the collision).

So yeah, if you are saying gravity (impulse) is negligibly small over the very short collision duration (##A## impacting ##B##) then for the collision ##\Delta P = 0 ##.
 
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erobz said:
The impulse ##J## they are talking about is applied only to mass ##m_A## (before the collision).

So yeah, if you are saying gravity is negligibly small over the very short collision duration (##A## impacting ##B##) then for the collision ##\Delta P = 0 ##.
Ok thanks for the clarification.
 
Thermofox said:
Ok thanks for the clarification.
Also, don't forget that you are starting at ##h##, when finding ##h_{max}##.
 
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erobz said:
Also, don't forget that you are starting at ##h##, when finding ##h_{max}##.
Right, ##h_{max}= \frac {v_{A+B}^2 (\sin\theta)^2} {2g}## is valid only when ##h_{\text{initial}}=0##.
##\Rightarrow h_{max}= h_{\text{initial}} + \frac {v_{A+B}^2 (\sin\theta)^2} {2g} ##
 
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