Impulse of Punt Homework: Mass Needed?

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The problem involves calculating the impulse delivered by a punter's foot to a football that is dropped from a height of 1 meter and leaves the foot at a specified speed and angle. The subject area pertains to concepts of momentum and impulse in physics.

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of knowing the mass of the football to determine the impulse numerically. Some suggest that the answer could be expressed in terms of mass.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants confirming the correctness of calculations while others point out potential typographical errors in the expressions used. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the approach and ensure accuracy.

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Participants note the absence of the football's mass in the original problem statement and express discomfort with this omission. The mass of a regulation football is mentioned as a reference point for calculations.

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Homework Statement



A punter drops a ball from rest vertically 1 meter down onto his foot. The ball leaves the foot with a speed of 18m/s at an angle of 55##^{\circ}## above the horizontal. What is the impulse delivered by the foot (magnitude and direction)?[/B]

Homework Equations


##p_b+p_f=p^{\prime}_{b}+p^{\prime}_{f}##
##v^2=v_{o}^2+2gh##

The Attempt at a Solution


##\sqrt{2gh}=4.43m/s##

Would not one need to know the mass of the football to solve this problem? I find it uncomfortable and strange that the mass of the football is not included in this problem. Am I correct in this assertion?

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Yes, you need the mass in order to get a numerical value for the magnitude of the impulse. You might have to settle for specifying the answer in terms of the mass.
 
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You can Google for the mass of a regulation football. (0.40 to 0.43 kg).
 
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Ok, I used .43kg, and I get:
##v=\sqrt{2gh}## implies that ##v=4.43m/s##.

I used ##I=\Delta \boldsymbol{P}=\boldsymbol{P}-\boldsymbol{P}_o##

Then componentized:

##\boldsymbol{P}_o=-1.90kg\cdot m/s \cdot \hat{y}##

##\boldsymbol{P}=18 m/s \cdot .43 kg \cdot (\cos 55^o \hat{y}+\sin 55^o \hat{x})##

##\therefore## ##\Delta \boldsymbol{P}## is a vector pointing 61.7##^o## with a magnitude of 9.36##kg \cdot m/s##. Is this correct?

Thanks,
KQ6UP
 
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Your answer looks correct. There appears to be a typographical error where your unit vectors ##\hat{x}## and ##\hat{y}## need to switch places in the expression for P.
 
TSny said:
Your answer looks correct. There appears to be a typographical error where your unit vectors ##\hat{x}## and ##\hat{y}## need to switch places in the expression for P.

Yes, that is a typo. Thanks,

KQ6UP
 
Here it is fixed for the record.

kq6up said:
Ok, I used .43kg, and I get:
##v=\sqrt{2gh}## implies that ##v=4.43m/s##.

I used ##I=\Delta \boldsymbol{P}=\boldsymbol{P}-\boldsymbol{P}_o##

Then componentized:

##\boldsymbol{P}_o=-1.90kg\cdot m/s \cdot \hat{y}##

##\boldsymbol{P}=18 m/s \cdot .43 kg \cdot (\cos 55^o \hat{x}+\sin 55^o \hat{y})##

##\therefore## ##\Delta \boldsymbol{P}## is a vector pointing 61.7##^o## with a magnitude of 9.36##kg \cdot m/s##. Is this correct?

Thanks,
KQ6UP
 

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