Incident Angle Limitation Derivation in Optical Fibre

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The discussion revolves around deriving the angle of limitation for light in optical fibers, specifically the equation sinθ=[(n2^2-n3^2)^1/2]/n1, where n1, n2, and n3 represent the refractive indices of air, the fiber core, and the fiber wall, respectively. Participants are exploring the application of Snell's Law and the concept of critical angles in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the path of light rays and the application of Snell's Law at both the entry point and the point of internal reflection. There are attempts to connect geometric relationships and trigonometric identities to derive the angle of limitation.

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Some participants have made progress in their reasoning, with one providing a detailed derivation involving trigonometric identities. Others are seeking clarification on the path of light rays and the necessary conditions for internal reflection. The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored.

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There is a request for diagrams to aid understanding, indicating that visual representation may be beneficial for some participants. Additionally, the discussion includes references to critical angles and identities that may require further exploration.

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Homework Statement


derive the angle of limitation sinθ=[(n2^2-n3^2)^1/2]/n1

n1 is the air out side of the fibre
n2 is inside of the fibre
n3 is the fibre wall

Homework Equations



Snells Law:

n1sinθ1=n2sinθ2



The Attempt at a Solution



I'm pretty stuck and don't really know where to go after getting the angles from geometry. I have pi/2-θ2 for the angle of reflection off of the optical wall. So I put this angle into Snells Law then just kind of get stuck.
 
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Eats Dirt said:

Homework Statement


derive the angle of limitation sinθ=[(n2^2-n3^2)^1/2]/n1

n1 is the air out side of the fibre
n2 is inside of the fibre
n3 is the fibre wall
First (for those of us unfamiliar with this topic), please describe the path of the light rays of interest. Better still, provide a diagram.
Snells Law:

n1sinθ1=n2sinθ2
Not quite.
When you have that corrected, use it at both the point of entry and at the point of internal reflection. (What is the minimum angle of incidence to get internal reflection? )
Connect the two using cos2 = 1 - sin2.
 
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haruspex said:
First (for those of us unfamiliar with this topic), please describe the path of the light rays of interest. Better still, provide a diagram.



Snells Law: n1Sin(θi)=n2Sin(θt) where t is the transmitted and i is the incident ray and their angles are measured relative to the normal of the surface.
 

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Ok I think I've got it,

\sin\theta

n_1\sin\theta_i=n_2\sin\theta_t

Known that the critical angle is \arcsin(\frac{n_2}{n_1})
\arcsin(n3/n2)=\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta_2
\theta_2=\frac{pi}{2}-\arcsin(\frac{n3}{n2})

n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\theta_2)\\<br /> <br /> n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\frac{pi}{2}-\arcsin(\frac{n_3}{n_2}))\\

use the identity \sin(A-B)=sinAcosB-cosAsinB

<br /> <br /> n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\frac{pi}{2})\cos(\arcsin(\frac{n3}{n2}))
use the identity \cos(\arcsin(x))=(1-x^2)^\frac{1}{2}\\ <br /> n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2(1-(\frac{n_3}{n_2})^2)^\frac{1}{2}\\<br /> <br /> \sin(\theta_i)=\frac{n_2}{n_1}(1-(\frac{n_3}{n_2})^2)^\frac{1}{2}\\<br /> <br /> \sin(\theta_i)=\frac{1}{n_1}((n_2)^2-(n_3)^2)^\frac{1}{2}

Thanks for your help haruspex!
 
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Converted to LaTeX for easier reading :wink:
##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\theta_t)##

Known that the critical angle is ##\arcsin(\frac{n_2}{n_1})##[general case]
so ##\arcsin(\frac{n_3}{n_2})=\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta_2##
##\theta_2=\frac{pi}{2}-\arcsin(n_3/n_2)##

##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\theta_2)##
##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin(\frac{\pi}{2}-\arcsin(\frac{n_3}{n_2}))##
use the identity ##\sin(A-B)####=####sinAcosB-cosAsinB##

##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2\sin\frac{\pi}{2}\cos(\arcsin(\frac{n_3}{n_2})##
use the identity ##\cos(\arcsin(x))=(1-x^2)^\frac{1}{2}##
##n_1\sin(\theta_i)=n_2(1-(\frac{n_3}{n_2})^2)##
##\sin(\theta_i)=\frac{n_2}{n_1}*(1-(\frac{n_3}{n_2})^2)##

##\sin(\theta_i)=\frac{1}{n_1}*((n_2)^2-(n_3)^2)^\frac{1}{2}##
 
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adjacent said:
Converted to LaTeX for easier reading :wink:

I edited my earlier message to convert it to latex :) took me a while as I have only used it a few times prior.
 

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