Inclined Plane with block of mass

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The discussion revolves around a block of mass m on an inclined plane with a known coefficient of kinetic friction. The problem involves analyzing the forces acting on the block, including tension in a rope and the effects of a pulley, to determine the block's acceleration up the slope.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss drawing free body diagrams to identify forces acting on the block, including weight, normal force, friction, and tension from the pulley. Questions arise about how to accurately account for the tension's effect on the pulley and its influence on the normal force and friction.

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Participants are actively exploring the relationships between the forces involved. One participant has recognized an oversight regarding the pulley’s effect on the normal force and friction, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the angle of the incline and the coefficient of kinetic friction, but specific values are not provided. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the application of forces related to the pulley system.

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[SOLVED] Inclined Plane

A block of mass m sits on an inclined plane. The coefficient of kinetic friction is known. If the tension in the rope is T, and at the instant shown the block is moving down the slope, what is the blocks acceleration up the slope?

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I started by drawing a free body diagram of the block.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8047/96925869yv4.jpg

Where W is the force due to the weight of the block, P is the force from the pulley, F is the friction force and N is the normal force.

I can easily calculate the weight force and resolve it into components down the slope and perpendicular to the slope to find the normal force and the force down the slope. I can then use the normal force to find the frictional force.

What i am having trouble with is finding the force due to the pulley. I tried drawing a FBD of it, but I am not really sure how the tension in the rope applies a force to the pulley. Do i assume the force to be applied to the point where the rope first contacts each side of the pulley?
 
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I came up with the following forces acting on the block:

[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> \overrightarrow W = \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> {mg\sin \theta } \\<br /> { - mg\cos \theta } \\<br /> \end{array}} \right) \\ <br /> \overrightarrow N = - \overrightarrow {W_y } = \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> 0 \\<br /> {mg\cos \theta } \\<br /> \end{array}} \right) \\ <br /> \overrightarrow F = - \mu _k \left| {\overrightarrow N } \right|\widehat{\underline i } = \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> { - \mu _k mg\cos \theta } \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> \end{array}} \right) \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]

The notation i am using for my vectors is as follows:

[tex] \left( {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> a \\<br /> b \\<br /> \end{array}} \right) = a\widehat{\underline i } + b\widehat{\underline j }[/tex]

Where i is a unit vector down the slope and j is a unit vector normal to the surface of the slope.
 
assume the angle between ropes constant and the tension on rope is T.

P = T + T Cos (alpha)
(P is the force you show above)

N = mg Cos (alpha) - T Sin (alpha)
 
Oh yep i see what i did wrong now. I forgot to consider the effect of the pulley on the normal force, which affected the friction force i calculated.

Thanks for the help :smile:
 

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