1. Not finding help here? Sign up for a free 30min tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Inclined planes, Banked highways, and Normal force

  1. Oct 28, 2012 #1
    Alright, I don't have a specific homework problem here, just a general question. I've attached two pages that I will be referencing.

    Figure 1. Inclined Plane
    2Oi7y.jpg

    As can be seen here, the FN = mgcos(∅)

    Figure 2. Banked Curve
    YFoXe.jpg

    It seems as if the opposite is true here. FNcos(∅) = mg

    The same holds true for the horizontal components. My question is, what is happening here? Why is there different notation all of a sudden. I completely understand the proof for the banked curve I just don't follow the inclined plane problem. It seems as if the two should be identical. What am I missing here?

    Any effort would be extremely appreciated! Honestly, the work the guys who answer questions here is amazing and I really plan on contributing to the community when I feel I'm qualified to help!
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Oct 28, 2012 #2

    haruspex

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member
    2016 Award

    Look at the third 'force' in each case.
    For the inclined plane, the third force is perpendicular to the normal force. You can think of it as assisting the normal force in opposing gravity. To eliminate the third force you resolve parallel to the normal force.
    For the banked curve, the third force (the resultant in this case) is the one required to keep the car going around a vertical axis, so is horizontal. Some of the normal force goes into providing that, and only what's left over gets to oppose gravity. To eliminate the third force you resolve vertically.
     
  4. Oct 28, 2012 #3
    Oh wow, thank you very much! I get it now
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook




Similar Discussions: Inclined planes, Banked highways, and Normal force
Loading...