Increasing voltage of system of aluminum Air batteries

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and optimization of an aluminum-air battery system intended to power a motor for an RC car. Participants explore various configurations and chemical considerations related to the battery setup, focusing on increasing voltage to meet motor specifications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their current setup of aluminum-air batteries, achieving 1.6A and 3.0V, but needing to increase voltage to meet the motor's requirement of 7.5V.
  • Another participant suggests reconfiguring the battery stacks to 3 stacks of 6 to potentially achieve 6.0V and 0.8A, noting the importance of ensuring battery voltages are identical when connecting in parallel.
  • A different participant emphasizes that wiring stacks in series would increase voltage while maintaining the same current, contrasting with the current parallel configuration.
  • Concerns are raised about the longevity of aluminum-air batteries due to the reaction of potassium hydroxide with aluminum, suggesting that the battery may have a short lifespan regardless of configuration.
  • A participant from Madagascar shares their experience with a single aluminum-air cell producing 1.5V and low current, seeking advice on increasing output.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best configuration for the battery stacks and the viability of aluminum-air batteries, with no consensus reached on the optimal approach or the longevity of the batteries.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential issues with battery longevity and the need for careful wiring to achieve desired voltage and current levels, but specific assumptions or limitations in their approaches remain unresolved.

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Hello all, this is my first post here and I am glad to be a new member of the PhysicsForums community! I have a question which I believe will be a good challenge for the bright minds here:

I am trying to create a system of Al-Air batteries to power a motor which will be hooked up to an rc car chassis and carry a sizable load. I've constructed the system seen in the following picture:

battery.jpg


batterystack.jpg


each circle represents 3 Al-Air battery cells in a stack connected to each other in series. These stacks are then connected to the other 5 stacks in parallel. Using this set-up, I am able to get readings of 1.6A and 3.0V. While this is enough to turn the motor, it is not enough for the motor to pull any reasonable load placed on it.

The motor requirements are 750mA and 7.5V

Since the current requirement is being met, the voltage just needs to be increased to make the motor turn faster/more strongly (is this correct?).

Is there any way to increase the voltage or make a more efficient battery setup? I am already using 18 cells (6 stacks of 3).

Thank you for reading, any help is appreciated!
 
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If you make 3 stacks of 6, you should be able to get 6.0V and 0.8A (twice the voltage, half the current). That might be close enough to the 7.5V motor spec.

EDIT:
You do need to be careful when hooking up batteries in parallel like this, since their voltages
will not be identical.
 
Pliskin01 said:
Hello all, this is my first post here and I am glad to be a new member of the PhysicsForums community! I have a question which I believe will be a good challenge for the bright minds here:

I am trying to create a system of Al-Air batteries to power a motor which will be hooked up to an rc car chassis and carry a sizable load. I've constructed the system seen in the following picture:

battery.jpg


batterystack.jpg


each circle represents 3 Al-Air battery cells in a stack connected to each other in series. These stacks are then connected to the other 5 stacks in parallel. Using this set-up, I am able to get readings of 1.6A and 3.0V. While this is enough to turn the motor, it is not enough for the motor to pull any reasonable load placed on it.

The motor requirements are 750mA and 7.5V

Since the current requirement is being met, the voltage just needs to be increased to make the motor turn faster/more strongly (is this correct?).

Is there any way to increase the voltage or make a more efficient battery setup? I am already using 18 cells (6 stacks of 3).

Thank you for reading, any help is appreciated!

My name is Navalona, I am Chemist engineer live in Antsirabe Madagascar, I wish to produce electricity by using Aluminium Air battery. i think that we could work together because we have the same problem: I made only one element and it gives me up to 1.5 Volts but the current is very low about 5mA only; If you know how to incrise it please do not hesitate to contact me.
thank you
 
Looks to me your stacks are wired parallel which will add the currents, but keep voltage the same. If you wire the stacks in series, you create voltages in a series which are additive and the currents the same.
 
Potassium Hydroxide will react with Aluminum regardless of any battery action, so this is a very short lived battery. Don't waste your time on it.

The products are Hydrogen and Potassium Aluminate (in ionic form). The reaction will deplete the Aluminium or the KOH depending on which happens first.
 

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