Induced E Field? B Field, Current, Electron

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of a magnetic field (B field) and the movement of current-carrying sheets on an electron's motion. Participants explore whether the observed movement of the electron is due to an induced electric field (E field) or the magnetic force, considering different frames of reference and the implications of Lorentz contraction.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the movement of an electron can be attributed to an induced E field when approaching a B field with a constant speed.
  • Another participant argues that an electron will not be affected by the electric field it produces, emphasizing that its electric field is due to its charge rather than movement.
  • A participant clarifies that in their frame of reference, the B field is moving towards them while the electron is at rest, prompting a discussion on whether the observed motion is electric or magnetic in nature.
  • Another participant suggests that if the plates are moving towards the electron, the B field exerts a force on the electron, invoking the Lorentz force equation.
  • One participant introduces the idea of Lorentz contraction, stating that if the current-carrying sheets are moving towards them, it results in a net charge and an induced E field in their frame due to the differing speeds of electrons and protons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the forces acting on the electron and whether the movement of the B field or the current-carrying sheets induces an E field. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on different frames of reference and interpretations of electromagnetic theory, which may lead to varying conclusions about the effects on the electron. The discussion does not resolve the implications of Lorentz contraction or the conditions under which the E field is induced.

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If I have a B field in between two current carrying sheets and I approach this moving at a constant speed. And I have an electron in my hand, when I see the electron move will I say it moved because of an induced E field? Or If I am standing by the plates and I see the electron move into the B field, I will say that it moved because of the magnetic force. So does my movement induce an E field?
 
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I don't think the electron will be affected by an electric field that it itself produces. There is an electric field around the electron, though it is because of the fact it is charged, not because there is movement.
 
Im talking about the movement of the B field towards me . In my frame the electron is at rest and the B field in between the plates is moving towards me, but when I get into the B field I will see the electron move. From my frame is the process electric or magnetic
 
So instead of the electron moving between the plates, you are suggesting that the plates are moving towards the electron? If that is the case, then one can also consider the electron moving towards stationary plates, in which case the B field is the one that is imposing a force on the electron (F = qvB).
 
well I don't think its that simple . If the current carrying sheets are moving towards me I will see a lorentz contraction and then i will get a net charge and an E field in my frame. Because The electrons moving in the sheet current are now approchaing me at a greater speed than the protons in the material.
 

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