Induction and EMF: Homework Statement Solution

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electromotive force (emf) induced in a small ring positioned above a current-carrying ring. The problem involves concepts from electromagnetism, specifically related to induction and magnetic flux, with the assumption that the magnetic field across the area of the small ring is constant.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between magnetic flux and time, particularly focusing on how the height of the small ring (z) changes with time due to its velocity (v). There are attempts to express z in terms of time to facilitate the differentiation needed for calculating emf.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing hints and corrections regarding the differentiation process. There is a recognition of the need to express variables correctly and to account for signs in the equations. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the approach without reaching a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the assumption that z is much greater than R, which influences the magnetic field approximation. Participants also note the importance of correctly applying the relationship between velocity and time in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


In a ring of radius R, there is current I flowing in the counterclockwise direction as viewed from above. A small ring of radius r is on a common axis and is a height z above the current carrying ring, where z>>R. The small ring moves up with velocity v. Calculate the emf in the upper ring and the direction of the induced current. It can be assumed that the ring is sufficiently small so that the magnetic field across it's area is constant.


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So E= - dΦ/dt
Φ = B*A ( since the magnetic field across it's area is constant ).
A = π*r*r
B= (μIR^2) / [ 2 ( R*R + z*z )^3/2 ] but since z>>R we can use the approximation
B= (μIR^2) / (2z^3)

Now i know I need to do the -dΦ/dt but I am getting confused ( how to do it? ).
Also the direction of the induced current will be clockwise. Please help
 
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In order to do the derivative you need to have time involved. The only quantity in that expression for the flux that depends on time is z, correct? Is there any way to get z in terms of time?

HINT: Have you used the velocity, v, yet?
 
So will the emf be A* (μIR*R/2) * 3( v^3 * z^4 ) or I did it very very wrongly..
 
You should not have z in your final answer. Start with this line:

[tex]\Phi=\frac{\mu IR^2A}{2z^3}[/tex]

Then, remember that: v = z/t.

Can you use the last expression to remove z from the first?
 
Sorry I made a typo.. should have been A* (μIR*R/2) * 3/( v^3 * t^4 ) but then still
A* (μIR*R/2) * 3/( z^3*t )
 
Is this anywhere near to correct?
 
I think you are missing a minus sign in there. You should have picked up a -3 with the differentiation.

Other than that, it looks good.
 
But from the original equation which is emf = - dΦ/dt, so this minus cancels out with the -3 minus.. I will redo it just in case. That's for all the help, you can count this one as solved ( I understood the main idea with the z being the only thing that changes with time! ). Thanks very much
 

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