Inertia and Angular Acceleration

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The problem involves two concentric disks mounted on a frictionless axle, with strings attached to each disk. The scenario presents two questions: determining the mass needed on the larger disk to prevent rotation when a mass is hung from the smaller disk, and analyzing the acceleration of the system when no mass is attached to the larger disk.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss balancing torques to achieve no rotation and question the properties of the masses that influence the system's behavior. There is also mention of using the net torque and moment of inertia in the context of the second part of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the relationship between torque and mass. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relevance of moment of inertia in the first part of the problem, while others explore the implications of different mass configurations on the system's motion.

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Participants are considering the conditions under which the disks do not rotate and the implications of hanging different masses. There is an emphasis on understanding torque without movement in the first question and the dynamics involved in the second question.

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Two concentric disks are welded together with a small hole through the center. This two disk unit is mounted onto a frictionless horizontal axle through the center hole. Two strings are attached and wound in opposite directions around the outer perimeter of each disk and are left hanging. The smaller disk has a mass of 4.77 kg and a diameter of 32.4 cm. The larger disk has a mass of 6.85 kg and a diameter of 44.2 cm. (a) If a mass of 400 g is hung from the string wrapped around the smaller disk, what mass should be hung from the string around the larger disk so that the two disk unit does not rotate? (b) If no mass is hung from the string around the larger disk, what will be the magnitude and direction of the acceleration of the two disk unit?


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Not really sure what to do here...I can calculate the Inertia of the Smaller disk and the larger disk...But I don't know what to do.

I_disk = 1/2mR²

any hints here? Thanks in advance
 
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The only thing I can think of is balancing the torques. If it doesn't rotate, it won't have any torque, so use the proper definition of torque to find when, with both masses and both moments, that the total torque on the system is 0.
 
For (a): Which property of the masses would "try" to rotate the disks? How can you get zero acceleration with those two masses?

In (b), just do the same consideration as in (a), but with a single mass and the total inertia of the system.

Edit: Yosty22 was quicker.
 
Hi CollegeStudent! :smile:
CollegeStudent said:
(a) If a mass of 400 g is hung from the string wrapped around the smaller disk, what mass should be hung from the string around the larger disk so that the two disk unit does not rotate? (b) If no mass is hung from the string around the larger disk, what will be the magnitude and direction of the acceleration of the two disk unit?

For (a) you don't need moment of inertia at all, since nothing is moving …

just add the torques​

For (b), use τnet = Iα :wink:
 

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