Inertia is directly proportional to mass

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between inertia and mass, with one participant asserting that inertia is directly proportional to mass, while another claims it is proportional to charge. The conversation explores experimental methods to test these claims, as well as the fundamental definitions of inertia and mass.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims inertia is directly proportional to mass, seeking to prove the opposing view wrong through experimentation.
  • Another participant argues that inertia is simply a property of mass, suggesting that the opposing view lacks scientific basis.
  • A third participant states that inertia is equivalent to mass and questions the validity of testing charge against inertia, citing established behavior of charged particles in particle accelerators.
  • A fourth participant provides methods for adding and stripping electrons from matter, emphasizing the need for a vacuum environment and discussing the self-sustaining nature of charged species in gases.
  • There is a suggestion to review the difference between inertia and momentum, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the relationship between inertia and mass versus charge, with no consensus reached on the validity of either position.

Contextual Notes

Participants exhibit varying levels of understanding regarding the definitions and properties of inertia, mass, and charge, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. The experimental methods proposed depend on specific conditions, such as the use of a vacuum and the nature of the materials involved.

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I say inertia is directly proportional to mass
Frank says inertia is directly proportional to charge

Of course we alll know I am right, but I would like to prove Frank wrong anyways. Instead of going to wikipedia and laughing in his face, (as is standard procedure) I would like to conduct an experiment.

Im not too keen on this science business, but I assume this would involve stripping a body of electrons, leaving an overall posotive charge; or adding electrons to a body, giving it a negative charge

In short, these are the questions I need answering:
How would I add electrons to matter
How would I strip electrons from matter
How would I sustain this charge
How would I measure inertia
What sort of material should I use

Im not asking if this is worth my time, I am asking how I would do it
 
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this is so ludicrous. inertia is a property of mass, plain and simple. you don't need wikipedia, you need an 8th grade science book.
 
Right - it isn't a property of mass, it is mass.

This idea about testing charge vs inertia is just trivial. Particle accelerators fire charged particles all the time and the behavior is well documented an understood.

And by the way, the net charge of a regular molecule is zero, so it would have no inertia by that logic. This is just gibberish.
 
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You add electrons to something by bombarding it with electrons. The mean free path of a electron in air is very short so this is usually done in a vacuum. You can strip electrons from something by placing it in a strong electric field, heating in an electric field, bombarding it with positive ions (like argon+), etc... All these are performed in a vacuum (~10-6 Torr). I would definitely use a gas. The ions you make will self-sustain if the charged species doesn't decompose spontaneously. Another good reason to use a gas...

You should start by reviewing the difference between inertia and momentum.

Are you two arguing about the curved path an ion takes in a magnetic field?

(mass spec problem?)
 
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