Infimum of integral of open set

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem related to the infimum of an integral of a function defined on an open set. Participants are exploring the properties of the function and its behavior under certain conditions, particularly focusing on the infimum of a functional denoted as F.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the function f being near 0 and 1 in different intervals, and how this affects the value of F. There are attempts to clarify the setup of the problem and the integration limits, as well as to provide hints for approaching the next part of the question.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the behavior of the function f and its impact on the integral, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or the resolution of the problem.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the function and the integration limits, with participants questioning the assumptions made about the function f. The problem appears to involve specific conditions that need to be clarified for a proper understanding.

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I have already done part a and b. Part a is easy, for part b, i let the anti-derivative of f to be k(t)+c and arrive at the answer that F(f)= 1/2+ 2*k(1/2) - k(1). But i don't know how to do the next part, can anyone give me a hint? the question c ask me to show that the infimum of F is 0 and it is never attained on A.
 

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lahuxixi said:
I have already done part a and b. Part a is easy, for part b, i let the anti-derivative of f to be k(t)+c and arrive at the answer that F(f)= 1/2+ 2*k(1/2) - k(1). But i don't know how to do the next part, can anyone give me a hint? the question c ask me to show that the infimum of F is 0 and it is never attained on A.

Hint: For F(f) to be near zero then f needs to be near 0 on [0,1/2) and near 1 on (1/2,1].
 
lahuxixi said:
I have already done part a and b. Part a is easy, for part b, i let the anti-derivative of f to be k(t)+c and arrive at the answer that F(f)= 1/2+ 2*k(1/2) - k(1). But i don't know how to do the next part, can anyone give me a hint? the question c ask me to show that the infimum of F is 0 and it is never attained on A.

It's conceptually pretty easy. Both integrands are nonnegative. You can make it as small as you want by jumping from f=0 on most of [0,1/2] to f=1 on most of [1/2,1]. Is that enough of a hint?
 
but in that case, F(f) will be -1/2,right? I am sorry but i don't really understand the hint,can you give a more specific "hint"?(i know,im bad at this)
 
I don't know where you got that since "f" was not given explicitely. It sounds to me like you are integrating f from 0 to 1 rather than f from 0 to 1/2 and then 1- f from 1/2 to 1.

Suppose f(x)= 0 for 0\le x\le .4, f(x)= 5(x- .4) for .4\le x\le .6, f(x)= 1 for .6\le x\le 1. That is, f is 0 from 0 to .4, then the straight line from (.4, 0) to (.6, 1), then is 1 from .6 to 1. What is the integral of that?

Now, do the same thing for , say .45 instead of .4 and .55 instead of .6- f(x)= 0 for 0\le x\le .45, is the straight line from (.45, 0) to (.55, 1), then 1 from .55 to 1. What is the integral of that? (You don't even need to write out the formula for the function- the integral is the area of a right triangle.)

What happens as you keep moving those two points toward x= .5?
 
thank you very much for this, i have been trying to do this question for a whole day already.
 

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