Infinite dimensional representation of su(2)

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The discussion centers on the construction of an infinite dimensional representation of the su(2) algebra, specifically through the hermitian generators defined as J_x, J_y, and J_z. The expression for J_z involves the Number Operator N, defined as N = a^\dagger a, while the term √(N+1) is debated, with participants clarifying that it represents an eigenvalue rather than a binomial expansion. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the distinction between operators and numbers in this context, particularly in verifying the su(2) algebra relations.

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I'm trying to understand this paper which the author claimed that he had constructed an infinite dimensional representation of the su(2) algebra. The hermitian generators are given by

J_x=\frac{i}{2}(\sqrt{N+1}a-a^\dagger\sqrt{N+1} )
J_y=-\frac{i}{2}(\sqrt{N+1}a+a^\dagger\sqrt{N+1} )
J_z=N+\frac{1}{2}

where the creation and the annihilation operators a^\dagger and a satisfy the commutator relation [a,a^\dagger]=-1 and N\equiv-a^\dagger a.

My question is, what is the meaning of the expression \sqrt{N+1}? So that I can proceed with the manipulation.
Does it means the binomial expression
\sqrt{N+1}= 1 + \frac{1}{2}N + ...?

I have been thinking along that line. How do we show that the representation is infinite dimensional?


ps How do you create the superscript operator dagger in tex?
 
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The dagger symbol is just \dagger. I don't know the answer to any of your other questions. :D
 
Thanks I have done the necessary changes. They don't have the template for dagger.
 
Hi,

I think you are a little confused. The N in J_z represents the Number Operator which is defined as a^dagger*a
Where as the N in the square root is just a number and is equal to the eigen value of the Number operator.

Conventionally, that's what I would think of, when I see the equations you have written
But of course, I haven't seen the paper you are referring to and I might be wrong. :smile:
 
If N is just a number why the author bother to write the expression to the right of a^\dagger .

Yes I agree usually the number operator N=a^\dagger a. But that is in the case of finite dimensional representation.

For your information, the papers that I trying to understand are:

1. Andre van Tonder, Ghosts as Negative Spinors, Nuc. Phys. B 645(2002) pp 371-386.
2. Andre van Tonder, On the representation theory of negative spin, Nuc. Phys. B 645(2002) pp 387-402.
 
What is attempted in your equations is known in physics as Schwinger's Boson representation of angular momentum algebra ( SU(2) in your case. ) TheJ_i are the generators of this algebra.
Therefore, one would conclude that the 'N' in the first two eqns are actually numbers:eigenvalue of the operator \hat{N} = a ^\dagger a, whose spectrum is infact the set of all non-negative integers, denoted by N.
In the third eqn its actually the operator \hat{N}. As u can see it doesn't matter if it is N or, \hat{N}. Both yields the same behavior. If it were a simple number, that eqn denotes (N+1/2)Id, where Id-> identity operator.
 
OK I make a mistake. But it is in the expression Jy. There shouldn't be the imaginary number i. Other than that I think I have copied correctly.

J_y=-\frac{1}{2}(\sqrt{N+1}a+a^\dagger\sqrt{N+1} )

If it true that \sqrt{N+1} is just a number then

[J_x , J_y]=-\frac{i(N+1)}{4}[a , a^\dagger] = \frac{i(N+1)}{4}.

which is not equivalent to the su(2) algebra [J_x , J_y]=iJ_z.


However if I assume \sqrt{N+1} to be an operator I'm able to verify the relation [J_x , J_y]=iJ_z.
 

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