Infinite number of identical charges r=a2^n

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field from a potential due to an infinite number of identical charges. The initial attempt to derive the electric field using the formula E = -dV/ds led to confusion, as the expected answer did not match the professor's feedback. It is clarified that the electric field must be calculated by considering the contribution from each individual charge rather than simply differentiating the potential. The relationship E = -∇V is emphasized, highlighting the need to understand gradients in this context. Ultimately, the correct approach involves summing the electric fields from all charges rather than relying solely on the potential's derivative.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


V=k∑q/r
E=-dV/ds

The Attempt at a Solution


I found part A plenty fine, 2kq/a

From here, I thought that the derivative of -V would give me the electric field, giving -2kq/a^2, but that's not the answer according to what my professor sent. I'm wondering why the derivative doesn't work.

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I know there's something about how E=-∇V, but I'm not completely sure how to take gradients to begin with, but from my understanding, gradient of a 2d function is just its derivative with respect to its only variable.

Thanks
 

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SherlockHolmie said:
I thought that the derivative of -V would give me the electric field
The electric field is the derivative of the potential with respect to displacements from the location where you are measuring the potential. That is not the same as a. If you change a you change the whole layout of the charges.
So you need to find the field due to each charge and add those.
 
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