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The discussion revolves around the concept of acceleration, its units, and its relationship with speed and velocity. Participants explore the definitions and implications of acceleration in various contexts, including straight-line motion and circular motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that acceleration is measured in m/s², suggesting that this indicates a change in speed over time.
  • Others clarify that if acceleration is in the same direction as velocity, speed increases, while if it is in the opposite direction, speed decreases.
  • There is a discussion about whether acceleration can be applied to both speed and velocity, with some participants indicating that it can be used for speed as a rate of change.
  • One participant emphasizes the distinction between speed (a scalar) and velocity (a vector), noting that velocity includes direction.
  • Another participant explains that in circular motion, even with constant speed, there is acceleration due to the change in direction.
  • There is a mention of the need to consider velocity as a vector quantity, with speed being its magnitude.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of speed and velocity but express differing views on the implications of acceleration in various scenarios, particularly regarding direction and its effects on speed and velocity. The discussion remains unresolved on some aspects of these relationships.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the implications of direction in acceleration and its relation to graphs, indicating a need for further clarification on these concepts.

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Hello guys,

The units for acceleration is ms-2, does this mean that for every second the speed is increasing by x ms-1?

Also can acceleration be used for speed and velocity since speed is distance/time while velocity is displacement/time?

Thanks
 
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TT0 said:
The units for acceleration is ms-2, does this mean that for every second the speed is increasing by x ms-1?
If the acceleration is in the same direction as the velocity, yes. If the acceleration were in the opposite direction then speed would instead be decreasing by x meters/second every second. If the acceleration were in the perpendicular direction then speed would not be changing at all.

Also can acceleration be used for speed and velocity since speed is distance/time while velocity is displacement/time?
The unit for acceleration are the same as the unit for the rate of change of speed over time. So yes it is perfectly acceptable to use units of acceleration when talking about a rate of change of speed. The term "tangential acceleration" is often used to make it more explicit.
 
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Hello, thanks for replying,

jbriggs444 said:
If the acceleration is in the same direction as the velocity, yes. If the acceleration were in the opposite direction then speed would instead be decreasing by x meters/second every second. If the acceleration were in the perpendicular direction then speed would not be changing at all.

What do you mean by direction? Is it the graph?

Also my understanding of velocity is displacement/time, is this correct?

Thanks
 
Velocity is a vector (a quantity with both magnitude and direction), speed is just a magnitude regardeless of direction of propagation. So if you're traveling "forward" with a speed ##y\frac{m}{s}##, and there is an acceleration backwards with magnitude ##x\frac{m}{s^2}## then every second, you will have a change in velocity of ##x\frac{m}{s}## backwards, which means a total change in velocity of ##(y-tx)\frac{m}{s}##, where t is time. Hope this helps.
 
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TT0 said:
Hello, thanks for replying,
What do you mean by direction? Is it the graph?

Also my understanding of velocity is displacement/time, is this correct?

Thanks

If you are traveling in a straight line in one direction only, then essentially speed is the same as velocity. But, there are two cases when you must be careful not to mix the two up:

a) If you travel in a straight line both forwards and backwards, then you have to choose which direction is +ve and which is -ve. Speed is then the magnitude of velocity, which can be positive or negative. If you choose moving to the right as positive, then you would have a velocity of, say, +5m/s if you are moving to the right and -5m/s if you are moving to the left. In both cases the speed is 5m/s.

b) If you are moving in a curve (a circle, for example), then you may be changing both your speed and direction. For example, if you are moving in a circle at constant speed, then you are accelerating. This is because you are constantly changing direction. And, to move in a circle, you need a force to be constantly pushing you inwards. So, in fact, the acceleration (which is also a vector) is directed towards the centre of the circle.

In fact, for any motion, you need to be thinking in terms of velocity, with speed being the magnitude of the velocity. And acceleration being the rate of change of velocity; never the rate of change of speed.

Finally, velocity is the "change in displacement/time", which is the "rate of change of displacement". Think of the circular motion again: the change in displacement is around the edge of the circle.
 
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Ok thanks everyone replying and helping me out. I think I get it.
 

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