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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the differences between the measurement systems used in Brazil and the United States, particularly focusing on various fields such as physics, thermodynamics, and industrial metrology. Participants explore the implications of using the International System of Units (SI) versus the imperial system in these contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that in the USA, both the metric (SI) and imperial systems are used, with scientists and engineers often employing SI in their work while everyday measurements are typically in imperial units like miles and pounds.
  • One participant shares a personal anecdote about the unfamiliarity of metric units in the USA, highlighting that Americans commonly use inches and feet for measurements.
  • Another participant expresses a critical view of the imperial system, suggesting it is obsolete and that the metric system is more universally understood.
  • There is mention of the historical complexity of the English system of weights and measures, with some units dating back to Roman times and varying between the US and imperial measurements.
  • A participant points out specific examples of measurement differences, such as the size of a US gallon compared to an imperial gallon and the use of unique units like "stones" and "grains" in certain trades.
  • Links to articles about English units and US customary units are provided for further reading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance and practicality of the imperial system versus the metric system. There is no consensus on which system is superior or more appropriate for the fields discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the need for conversions between measurement systems in the USA, indicating a reliance on both systems without resolving the complexities involved in their use across different fields.

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Google Translator.: (Portuguese(Brazil) -> English(U.S.A))

Hello, good morning.
I live in Brazil (South America).
I'm doing research for the course in production engineering.
I found that in Brazil, we use the international system of units (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units).
And in "United States", using the imperial system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_units).

I need to know what changes in:
- Physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics)
- Calculation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculus)
- Thermodynamics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamics)
- Strength of Materials (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_of_Materials)
- Transport Phenomena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Phenomena)
- Industrial Metrology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrology)
- Fluid-Mechanical Systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_engineering)

I need to know the measurement system you use in the United States for all these matters.
Eg
Brazil: We use the "International System of Units (SI)", the measures are:
- Kilometers (km), meters (m), centimeter (cm),
- In physics:
International System of Units (SI) - Brazil:
Meter (m), kilometers (km), centimeter (cm), millimeter (mm), meters per second (m / s ^ 2).

Imperial System - United States:
?



I wonder if someone could pass me one by one, "all" systems (measures, derivatives, etc..) Used in each of these matters above, in the United States.

Thank you.



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Babylon Translator.: (Portuguese(Brazil) -> English(U.S.A))

Hello, good day.
I live in Brazil (South America).
I am doing a research for the production engineering course.
I have noticed that in Brazil, we use the international system of units (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units).
AND in "United States", using the imperial system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_units).
We need to know what changes in:
- Physical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics)
- Calculation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculus)
- thermodynamics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamics)
- resistance of materials (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_of_Materials)
- phenomena of Transport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Phenomena)
- Industrial Metrology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrology)
- Systems fluid-mechanical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_engineering)
need to know the system of measures that you in the United States use to all of these matters.
For example:
Brazil: We use the International System of Units (SI), the steps are:
- kilometer (km), metro(m), centimetre (cm)

- in physics:
International System of Units (SI) - Brazil:
Metro(m), kilometer (km), centimetre (cm), millimeter (mm), meter per second(m/s^2).

Imperial System - United States:
?



I would like to know if someone could pass one by one, "all" the systems (measures, derived from, etc. ) used in each field of these above, in the United States.
Thank You
 
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engbianco, seja bem vindo (Welcome) to Physics Forums.

In the USA most everyone must use both systems of measurements. It is true that many scientists and engineers use the metric system (SI) in their work. But when they drive in their cars to their homes they measure the distance in miles. When they measure their weight they use pounds. When they measure temperature inside their homes they use the Fahrenheit temperature scale.

I live in Brasil and own a Museum and a Nature Preserve. Hectares, kilometers, and grams are mostly unknown to Americans. Many years ago in Tocantins I went to buy some nuts and bolts and the sales guy told me they were measured in "polegadas". I had to go home and use the dictionary to discover this translated in English to "thumbs". Americans call these archaic things inches. And they measure their height using feet, after some ancient king's foot size.

So, all the areas you've listed may be measured in either Imperial or International in the USA. Americans must be able to convert from one to the other continuously.

Cheers,
Bobbywhy

ps: I am fluent in Portuguese, but here on Physics Forums our rules require us to use only English.
 
Just consider the USA system of measure as being obsolete.
It works better that way.

Anyone worth talking to on this planet in this century, will understand the metric system ( SI ).
 
English system of weights and measures has a rich history.
It's illogical, because each specialized trade thought up their own units and many persist to this day. Some go clear back to Roman times.

US system is very similar but not identical.


for example : A US gallon is smaller than an Imperial gallon, something to do with trade in colonial times.

So far as i know , Anvils are still marked in "stones"... gunpowder is weighed in "grains"...a fluid ounce is the volume of about an ounce(weight) of water...

I would not attempt to name, let alone tabulate them all.

here's two pretty good articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_units
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_customary_units

you might want to print both.
Have fun !

old jim
 
Meters and kilograms are not just a craze
That the world is metric doesn’t seem to faze
The US and England who remain in a daze
Confined to their islands immersed in a haze
At two ostriches the world continues to gaze

Cheers, Bobbywhy
 

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