How to get the units of momentum flux?

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The discussion centers on the units of momentum flux, exploring how to derive them correctly and addressing discrepancies in various sources. Participants examine the definitions and calculations related to momentum and flux, with a focus on fluid dynamics and related contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that momentum flux should be derived as kg m−1 s−1, but expresses confusion over arriving at kg m−2 s−2 instead.
  • Another participant asserts that momentum flux is the transfer of momentum per area per time, leading to the dimensions of kg/s²m.
  • A third participant references Wikipedia, suggesting that momentum flux can also be expressed as kg m−1 s−2, aligning with the previous claim.
  • There is a mention of a meteorology book stating a different unit for momentum flux, prompting a question about the accuracy of that source.
  • A later reply agrees that the book's statement is incorrect, but does not provide a definitive resolution to the disagreement.

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Participants express differing views on the correct units of momentum flux, with no consensus reached. Some agree on kg m−1 s−2, while others reference alternative expressions and sources that conflict with this interpretation.

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The discussion highlights potential arithmetic errors and varying definitions across different contexts, indicating that the understanding of momentum flux may depend on specific applications in physics.

AppeltjeBosheuvel
Good evening,

Does anybody know how to get the units of momentum flux?
Momentum = kg m s−1
Flux = m−2 s−1

Somehow, I should end up with kg m-1 s-1
(kg m s−1) m−2 s−1 = kg m−1 s−1

However I end up with kg m-2 s-2

Is there anybody that knows what I'm doing wrong? :)

The units of momentum flux depend on the context and the specific physical quantity being described. In fluid dynamics, momentum flux is often associated with the flow of a fluid, and its units can be derived from the units of mass, velocity, and area. The standard unit of momentum flux in the International System of Units (SI) is the Newton per square meter (N/m²).

Here's how the units for momentum flux are derived:

  • Momentum (p) has units of kilogram meters per second (kg·m/s).
  • Area (A) has units of square meters (m²).
Therefore, the units of momentum flux (Φ) are:

Φ = p/A = (kg·m/s) / (m²) = kg/(m·s)

So, the SI unit for momentum flux is the kilogram per meter per second (kg/(m·s)). In fluid dynamics, this is commonly used to describe quantities like pressure, shear stress, or viscous forces.

Keep in mind that in different contexts, momentum flux may have different units. It's always important to consider the specific physical situation to determine the appropriate units for momentum flux.
 
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Neither of those options is correct. Momentum flux is the transfer of momentum per area per time and should therefore has the dimensions ##[p]/\mathsf{L^2 T} = \mathsf{(M L/T)/L^2 T}## as you have identified. However, you made an arithmetic error. The correct arithmetics would give you the dimensions ##\mathsf{M/LT^2}##. A unit for quantities of this physical dimension is kg/s^2m.
 
Thanks!

So momentum flux = kg s-2 m-1 ?

On wiki it also says this:

  1. Momentum flux, the rate of transfer of momentum across a unit area (N·s · m−2·s−1).
N = kg m s−2
N s = kg m s-1

N s flux = kg m s-1 m-2 s-1
Momentum flux = kg m-1 s-2
Same as you say.

However in my meteorology book it really says (kg m s−1) m−2 s−1 = kg m−1 s−1

So would this be a mistake in the book?
 
AppeltjeBosheuvel said:
So would this be a mistake in the book?
Clearly.
 

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