Initial and final states of hydrogen atom

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The discussion revolves around the transitions of a hydrogen atom as it emits a photon with a wavelength of 95nm. Participants are exploring the initial and final energy states of the atom, utilizing the relationship between energy and wavelength in the context of quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial assumption of the final state being the ground state and question whether other final states could be valid. There are attempts to calculate energy levels using the wavelength and energy equations, with some expressing uncertainty about the results and the validity of their methods.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the equations to use and questioning the assumptions made regarding the final state. There is recognition of the complexity in determining the final state, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an emphasis on making reasonable guesses for the final state based on the energy of the emitted photon.

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Homework Statement



A hydrogen atom in an excited state emits a photon of wavelength 95nm. What are the initial and final states of the hydrogen atom? [Hint: you will need to make a reasonable guess of what is the final state. look at the energy of the photon and compare this energy with all the possible transitions in the hydrogen atom.]

Homework Equations



En=-E0/n^2
lambda=hc/(Ei-Ef)

The Attempt at a Solution



For the initial state, I set 95 = 1240/ (13.6-(-13.6/n^2)) and solved for n. I got 4.985, so I said it was 5th order initially. However, I think I may be doing this entirely wrong, as I cannot figure out how to get the final state.
 
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The equation you solved is assuming the final state of the hydrogen atom was the ground state, n=1. Could the final state have been any other n?
 
Does that change my equation for finding the initial state, or just for the final state? And for the final state, I tried to find E with E=hc/lambda, and then plug that in as the final energy, but that didn't work. I got something less then one.
 
In general, the energy is 13.606*(1/nf^2-1/ni^2) where nf is the final state and ni is the intial state. What you did in your first attempt is basically the same as putting nf=1 and finding ni. And ni=5 looks good to me. Why couldn't nf be 2 or larger?
 
Okay, so what I did now was set 95 = 1240 / [(-13.6/n^2)-(-13.6/25)] and solved for n, but I am getting something between 1 and 2, and not really very definitively either one. You can't be between energy states, so I know I must still be doing something wrong.

Thank you for all your help so far!
 
Well, I get about 1.04 which is about as close as you can expect from the accuracy of everything else around.
 

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