Initial Compressed Spring Force

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The problem involves a spring with a given stiffness and relaxed length, which is compressed by a block placed on it. The objective is to determine the force exerted by the spring on the block at the moment the block is released. The context is rooted in mechanics, specifically dealing with spring forces and equilibrium conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of calculating the spring force and question the validity of the original poster's approach. There is consideration of significant digits in calculations and whether the direction of the force should be explicitly stated.

Discussion Status

Some participants affirm the original poster's method while others suggest that issues related to significant digits might be affecting the outcome. The discussion is exploring the implications of directionality in the force calculation, indicating a productive examination of the problem's nuances.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential penalties for insufficient significant digits, and participants are considering the implications of expressing the force as a vector. The emphasis on directionality and the interpretation of the problem's requirements are also under discussion.

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Homework Statement



A spring has a relaxed length of 0.17 m, and its stiffness is 15 N/m. The spring sits vertically on a table. You place a block of mass 0.058 kg on the spring and push down on the block until the spring is only 0.11 m long. You hold the block motionless on the compressed spring, then remove your hand.

At the instant you release the block, what is the force exerted by the spring on the block? (Consider the initial stretch of the spring.) Use the usual axis system, with the +y axis running vertically up.

L=0.11m
L0=0.17m
Ks=15N/m

Homework Equations



|s|(absolute value of s)=|L-L0|

|Fspring|(magnitude of the force) = Ks*|s|

The Attempt at a Solution



I am asked to find the force exerted by the spring initially. I plugged in the variables I was given.

|s| = |0.11m-0.17m|
|s| = 0.06m

|Fspring| = 15N/m*0.06m
|Fspring| = 0.9N

So my answer for the force acted on the block initially by the spring was 0.9N. However, I am told this is not right. Can anyone explain why not?
 
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Your method looks right. Are you being penalized for not enough SDs? You can get an extra SD by multiplying before subtracting.

[great user name, btw :) ]
 
lewando said:
Your method looks right. Are you being penalized for not enough SDs? You can get an extra SD by multiplying before subtracting.

[great user name, btw :) ]
I think not.

15(0.17-0.11) = 15(0.17) - 15(0.11)

             = 2.55 - 1.65

Each of which is accurate to the nearest tenth (according to SigDig). So while each of these has 2 SigDig, when you subtract you're left with 1 SigDig.

However, if you multiply both lengths, 0.17 & 0.11, by 2.0000, before subtracting, the result will have 2 SigDig. Then if you multiply by 15 followed by division by 2.0000, the result will have 2 SigDig, showing the folly of being too rigid about applying the rules of SigDig.

Alternatively, if you look at the question, there does appear to be an emphasis on directionality. Should the answer of a magnitude be accompanied by a direction?
 
Are you being penalized for not enough SDs?

I don't think my professor is that strict with SDs. It is possible though.

Should the answer of a magnitude be accompanied by a direction?

This is possible but isn't it implied to be going up the y-axis since it is a positive number? Maybe I should have wrote it as a vector: <0,0.9,0>N?
 

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