Initial,post limit,secant stiffness

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of initial stiffness, post limit stiffness, and secant stiffness in the context of material behavior under stress. Participants seek clarification on these terms, particularly how they relate to stress-strain curves, and express confusion regarding post limit stiffness.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes initial stiffness as the tangential stiffness at the beginning of the stress-strain curve and defines secant stiffness as the slope of the secant line from the origin to the yield point.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the concept of post limit stiffness and requests clarification, particularly through graphical representation.
  • A participant shares a link to an image that discusses post-limit stiffness, noting that it is reduced in higher bolt grades, but admits to not understanding the concept fully.
  • There is a question raised about the significance of the slope of the stress-strain curve before and after yield, indicating a desire to understand the implications of these stiffness measures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the definition and implications of post limit stiffness, with multiple views and uncertainties expressed regarding its significance and interpretation.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided specific definitions for post limit stiffness, and there are unresolved questions about the limits referred to in the discussion. The request for graphical clarification indicates a potential gap in understanding the relationships between the stiffness measures.

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Hello,

My question is simple, but it does confuse me.

I need to know the exact difference between
Initial stiffness,post limit stiffness, and secant stiffness in details please

Please clarify this on graph if possible

Thank you
 
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What have you looked up about these topics so far?
 
I know that initial stiffness is the tangential stiffness at the beginning and the secant stiffness represent, the secant line passing through 0,0 and the final point( yield point).But still confuse about the post limit stiffness, that way i asked for drawing to clarify them all at the same graph

Thank you
 
What limit is it that you think it refers to?
 
I don't know exactly that's why i am asking if anyone know about post stiffness concept.
Thank you
 
http://postimg.org/image/3n5smqb35/

in this picture a book mention that the post-limit stiffness of the component (upon yielding) is notably reduced in the case of the higher bolt grade(red line).

And i don't understand post stiffness.

Help me please
 
What is the significance of the slope of the stress strain curve before and after yield?
 

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