Initial velocity and time of motion through water

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The discussion focuses on calculating the initial velocity required for a ball to sink to a depth of 4 meters after being dropped from a height of 1 meter. The ball's density is specified as 770 kg/m³, and the time of motion through water is determined to be 0.451 seconds. The solution involves classical mechanics principles, specifically the equations for free fall and the influence of initial velocity on the ball's descent. Participants emphasize the importance of considering forces beyond gravity when analyzing motion through a fluid.

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Homework Statement


What initial velocity has to have a ball at the height h=1m in order to sink in the water to depth of s=4m? How long is the motion of a ball through water? A ball is made of material that has density \rho=770 kg/m^3. Surface tension and friction are negligible.

Homework Equations


Classical mechanics - free fall

The Attempt at a Solution


Ball will fall on water surface after t_1=\sqrt{\frac{2h}{g}}.
Time of falling to the bottom of water is t_2=\sqrt{\frac{2s}{g}}.
Motion through the water is t_2-t_1=0,451 s.
Is this correct?
How to find the initial velocity? Why is the density of a ball \rho given?
 
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Yes, you are correct in that you use classical mechanics. However, you must also think about other forces that could be present, not just gravity.
What forces are exerted on an object partially or totally immersed in a fluid? How would density be relevant?
 
I would say, no, the time formulas quoted are for object's Free-Falling from rest. The problem states that the ball has an initial {unknown} velocity when dropped in air from a height = 1 m. Then it will also have the necessary initial velocity when it enters the water to drive it down a distance = s = 4 m. Both in air and in water formulas are of the form: d = Vo(t) + 1/2gt²
 
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