Inner product between velocity and acceleration is zero (parametric)

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The discussion revolves around the inner product of the velocity and acceleration vectors, specifically why it equals zero when the velocity vector is normalized. The user initially struggles with the derivation but ultimately confirms that the relationship holds due to the property of vectors with constant magnitude. After receiving assistance, they correctly derive that the inner product of the normalized velocity and acceleration vectors results in zero. The conversation also touches on formatting issues with LaTeX in the forum. The final conclusion is that the inner product being zero is consistent with the mathematical properties of normalized vectors.
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Homework Statement
I should show the following ##\bigl\langle \dot{\textbf{r}}'(t) ,\ddot{\textbf{r}}'(t) \bigr\rangle=0##
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Hi,

I am having problems with task b

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I then defined the velocity vector and the acceleration vector as follows

##dot{\textbf{r}}'(t) = \frac{1}{||\dot{\textbf{r}}(t)||} \left(\begin{array}{c} \dot{r_1}(t) \\ \dot{r_2}(t) \end{array}\right)##

and

##ddot{\textbf{r}}'(t) = \frac{1}{||\dot{\textbf{r}}(t)||} \frac{d}{dt}\left(\begin{array}{c} \dot{r_1}(t) \\ \dot{r_2}(t) \end{array}\right)##

Then I calculated the following:

##bigl\langle \dot{\textbf{r}}'(t) ,\ddot{\textbf{r}}'(t) \bigr\rangle=\dot{\textbf{r}}'(t) = \frac{1}{||\dot{\textbf{r}}(t)||^2} \left(\begin{array}{c} \dot{r_1}(t) \\ \dot{r_2}(t) \end{array}\right) \cdot \frac{d}{dt}\left(\begin{array}{c} \dot{r_1}(t) \\ \dot{r_2}(t) \end{array}\right)= \frac{1}{||\dot{\textbf{r}}(t)||^2} \Bigl( \dot{r_1}(t) \frac{d}{dt} \dot{r_1}(t) + \dot{r_2}(t) \frac{d}{dt} \dot{r_2}(t) \Bigr)=\frac{1}{||\dot{\textbf{r}}(t)||^2} \Bigl( \dot{r_1}(t) \ddot{r_1}(t) + \dot{r_2}(t) \ddot{r_2}(t) \Bigr)##

Unfortunately, I can't get any further. The following must apply ##\bigl\langle \dot{\textbf{r}}'(t) ,\ddot{\textbf{r}}'(t) \bigr\rangle=0## so that this is the case, the expression ##\dot{r_1}(t) \ddot{r_1}(t) + \dot{r_2}(t) \ddot{r_2}(t)=0##, but why is this the case?

My derivation is probably already wrong, but I don't know how else to solve the problem.
 
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I don't know why my formula with Latex is not displayed correctly, does anyone know why?

In overleaf it is displayed correctly
 
In $$dot{\textbf{r}}'(t) = \frac{1}{||\dot{\textbf{r}}(t)||} \left(\begin{array}{c} \dot{r_1}(t) \\ \dot{r_2}(t) \end{array}\right)$$ a "\" is missing in the beginning: $$\dot{\textbf{r}}'(t) = \frac{1}{||\dot{\textbf{r}}(t)||} \left(\begin{array}{c} \dot{r_1}(t) \\ \dot{r_2}(t) \end{array}\right)$$
 
Lambda96 said:
ddotr′(t)=1||r˙(t)||ddt(r1˙(t)r2˙(t))
no. The normalized acceleration vector should be the derivative of the normalized velocity vector.
 
To add a hint to that, what you are looking for is a property of any vector of constant magnitude. Don’t get bogged down in the particular expression in terms of a normalized vector.
 
Thank you Hill and Orodruin for your help 👍👍

I have now proceeded as follows

##\bigl\langle \dot{r}', \dot{r}' \bigr\rangle=\dot{r}' \cdot \dot{r}' =1##

Now I have simply formed the derivative ##\frac{d}{dt}##

##\ddot{r}' \cdot \dot{r}' + \dot{r}' \cdot \ddot{r}' =0##
##2 \dot{r}' \cdot \ddot{r}' =0##
##\dot{r}' \cdot \ddot{r}' =0##
 
Lambda96 said:
Thank you Hill and Orodruin for your help 👍👍

I have now proceeded as follows

##\bigl\langle \dot{r}', \dot{r}' \bigr\rangle=\dot{r}' \cdot \dot{r}' =1##

Now I have simply formed the derivative ##\frac{d}{dt}##

##\ddot{r}' \cdot \dot{r}' + \dot{r}' \cdot \ddot{r}' =0##
##2 \dot{r}' \cdot \ddot{r}' =0##
##\dot{r}' \cdot \ddot{r}' =0##
Indeed.