Inside the Football Factory - Education, Sports and Kids

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of sports programs in educational settings, particularly focusing on how these programs affect student-athletes' academic and personal development. Participants express concerns about the prioritization of athletics over academics and the potential exploitation of young athletes.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disappointment in the way educational institutions prioritize sports over academics, suggesting that student-athletes are being exploited.
  • One participant mentions a specific program at The University of Arizona, indicating that athletes are often enrolled in less rigorous academic programs like Family Studies.
  • There is a sentiment that the lack of strong academic environments for these athletes limits their future opportunities, with some arguing that personal development and discipline are more valuable at this stage of their lives.
  • Repeated concerns are raised about the effectiveness of these sports programs in genuinely supporting the academic and personal growth of the students, with skepticism about the motivations of school founders.
  • One participant argues that even if the sports programs are flawed, they may still provide essential life skills and respect that the students lack in other settings.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the problematic nature of prioritizing sports over academics, but there are differing views on whether the existing programs provide any real benefit to the students involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall effectiveness and intentions behind these educational sports programs.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concerns about the academic rigor of programs available to student-athletes and the broader implications of their experiences in sports-focused educational environments. There is a lack of consensus on the motivations of educational institutions and the actual benefits provided to the students.

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Watching this video swirled a lot of thoughts and emotions in my mind. After the UNC scandal, it all makes more sense. In my mind we are completely selling these kids out. The video brags about the colleges some kids get recruited for, yet it doesn't talk about how many get drafted. So the kids get to play college ball and then have no real academic skills. I am so disappointed right now. Not for one second do I believe their weak propaganda that they care about the academics.

 
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I feel the same way. Locally many of The University of Arizona athletes are enrolled in a program especially designed for them. It is called Family Studies. Their degree if the do get it will be in , of course, Family Studies.
 
The odds of these kids getting into a real academic environment elsewhere is about zero. Growing up with real father figures and discipline is a lesson of how to live a decent life that's much more valuable to them at that stage.
 
nsaspook said:
The odds of these kids getting into a real academic environment elsewhere is about zero. Growing up with real father figures and discipline is a lesson of how to live a decent life that's much more valuable to them at that stage.
How can these things not be done in a regular academics first high school setting? In my eyes these school founders are just using these kids so they can have a nice football team. But not even that is working as they finished 3-9 last year.
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
How can these things not be done in a regular academics first high school setting? In my eyes these school founders are just using these kids so they can have a nice football team. But not even that is working as they finished 3-9 last year.

IMO if most of these 'students' could succeed in that type of setting the odds are they would already be there. Sure the founders might have their own self centered reasons other than just helping the kids off the street but so what. At least the kids seem to be treated with respect and understanding in an adult manner. What's lacking in most of these kids lives is something more basic than academics so if even a bad sports program helps them order their lives so they can really handle academics latter in life to me that's a good thing.
 

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