Installing Linux on Windows XP AMD 64 - Risks & Setup

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The discussion revolves around the process and considerations of installing Linux, specifically Mandrake 10, on a system currently running Windows XP on an AMD 64 processor. Participants explore partitioning strategies, potential risks, and alternative Linux distributions suitable for programming and general use.

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  • One participant expresses a desire to install Linux on a 20 GB partition while keeping the existing Windows installation intact.
  • Another suggests creating separate partitions for /, /home, and /boot to safeguard user data during reinstallation.
  • Concerns are raised about the risks of losing data, particularly regarding the Windows Office 2003 installation.
  • Some participants recommend using partitioning tools like Partition Magic, while others mention the potential for data loss during partitioning.
  • There is discussion about the reliability of Mandrake's installer for resizing partitions without harming the Windows installation.
  • Several participants share their experiences with different Linux distributions, with Fedora and SuSE being recommended as alternatives to Mandrake due to their user-friendly interfaces and package management.
  • One participant mentions downloading Mandrake 10 and expresses uncertainty about its suitability based on mixed reviews.
  • Another participant notes that OpenOffice could serve as a free alternative to Microsoft Office, which may be beneficial for the user.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions regarding the best Linux distribution, with no clear consensus on whether Mandrake is the best choice. Some advocate for Fedora or SuSE, while others defend Mandrake's ease of use. Concerns about data safety during partitioning remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various tools and methods for partitioning, but there are uncertainties regarding the reliability of these methods and the potential risks involved. The discussion also reflects differing levels of experience with Linux installations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for users considering a dual-boot setup with Windows and Linux, particularly those new to Linux installations or seeking advice on partitioning and distribution choices.

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  • #32
graphic7 said:
As I recall, Intel only offers their compilers in an RPM package install format. I could be wrong, but if this is true, then an RPM-based distribution like Fedora or SuSE will be your only choice. If you do choose to run, say a Debian-based package distribution, conversion utilities do exist to convert the RPM to the native package format, however, I would not put too much faith in those.

Gentoo's portage offers intel's compiler for both C++ and Fortran:

http://www.gentoo-portage.com/s?search=intel+compiler
 
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  • #33
franznietzsche said:
Well I'm currently posting while running under Fedora, haven't tried booting to windows yet though.

I gave the root 5 Gb, same for boot, swap 1 Gb (i have 768 Mb of RAM) and about 40 to /home.

Up and running fine, though i need to find printer drivers, my printer wasn't listed in the list that came up at startup (not sure why)and the disc only has Mac and Windows drivers.

I will have to agree with gerben and say that your boot parition is WAY too big. Mine is 32MB, but you could go smaller depending on how many kernel versions you keep around.
 
  • #34
franznietzsche said:
Well I'm currently posting while running under Fedora, haven't tried booting to windows yet though.

I gave the root 5 Gb, same for boot, swap 1 Gb (i have 768 Mb of RAM) and about 40 to /home.

Up and running fine, though i need to find printer drivers, my printer wasn't listed in the list that came up at startup (not sure why)and the disc only has Mac and Windows drivers.

You won't find any printer drivers for UNIX/Linux on the CD or the manufacturer's site. Find out if the printer is a 'Postscript' printer. If this is true, getting it supported by LPD or Cups will be a simple matter. As I recall, there's a KDE app that configures Cups. You could go ahead and attempt to configure it using this app, and see if the printer is on the list.

Not all printers are Postscript. I bought a printer made in 94' or 95' by Lexmark; it upon non-Postscript and relied about the Windows GDI. Neither Cups or LPD supported it.
 
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  • #35
When you were configuring your printer you did switch from "generic" to the company of your printer right?
 
  • #36
mattmns said:
When you were configuring your printer you did switch from "generic" to the company of your printer right?

You misunderstand. LPD and CUPS both depend on the printer being Postscript-capable. If it's not, the printer is not supported, regardless.
 
  • #37
mattmns said:
When you were configuring your printer you did switch from "generic" to the company of your printer right?


yeah, but the model number is not listed as a choice.
 
  • #38
I'm having a problem with glibc-devel, specifically /usr/lib/crt1.o which seems to be missing and is preventing me from running the intel compiler. How do i fix this? I've found posts from people with this problem all over hte place, but haven't found a solution.
 
  • #39
franznietzsche said:
I'm having a problem with glibc-devel, specifically /usr/lib/crt1.o which seems to be missing and is preventing me from running the intel compiler. How do i fix this? I've found posts from people with this problem all over hte place, but haven't found a solution.

Do a 'find / -name crt1.o' from a shell, and post your output. You could also verify that crt1.o is in /usr/lib.

Take a look at the release notes:

http://neumann.cem.msu.edu/docs/icc/C++ReleaseNotes.htm

There's an insert about the 'crt1.o' error you are encountering. If your error message looks similar to that, modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable will be trivial.
 
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  • #40
[]$ ifort hw1c.f90
ld: /usr/lib/crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[]$ find -name crt1.o
[]$

It doesn't disply anything when i enter the find command, just brings up another prompt.

ONly thing I've found online is that this has to do with a problem with the gnu library, but fixing that seems to be very difficult.
 
  • #41
franznietzsche said:
[]$ ifort hw1c.f90
ld: /usr/lib/crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[]$ find -name crt1.o
[]$

It doesn't disply anything when i enter the find command, just brings up another prompt.

ONly thing I've found online is that this has to do with a problem with the gnu library, but fixing that seems to be very difficult.

Did you do a full Fedora install?

This shouldn't be difficult at all. If you didn't do an install it's a matter of 1) installing the glibc-devel rpm and 2) setting the correct LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Both of these are trivial.
 
  • #42
graphic7 said:
Did you do a full Fedora install?

This shouldn't be difficult at all. If you didn't do an install it's a matter of 1) installing the glibc-devel rpm and 2) setting the correct LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Both of these are trivial.


I tried installing the glibc-devel rpm, but the the entire glibc is missing.

And it may be trivial, but i still don't know how to do it
 
  • #43
The only thing i can think of is that there is something wrong with the GNU library on Fedora. I can't find a solution for this problem anywhere, i tried reinstalling, made sure that glibc was included, and the probelm is still there. Every other report I've found of this problem has been running fedora.

Any ideas?
 
  • #44
I looked in the install.log and found that

glib-devel-1.2.10-15.x86_64.rpm
glibc-devel-2.3.3-74.i386.rpm
glibc-profile-2.3.3-74.x86_64.rpm
glibc-utils-2.3.3-74.x86_64.rpm

Were all NOT installed.

glibc-2.3.3-74.i686
glibc-2.3.3-74.x86_64

Were installed
 
  • #45
I checked the MD5 checksum on the isos to be sure they matched(it did). However, when i booted from the fedora disc, it failed the media check. Could this be related? Why would the MD5 match when the media check failed though?
 
  • #46
glibc-2.3.3-74.i686
glibc-2.3.3-74.x86_64

Were installed
Shouldn't it be one or the other?
 
  • #47
gnome said:
Shouldn't it be one or the other?


I would think so, but that's what the install.log said.

I'm running yum update right now, I'm hoping that maybe that will fix the problem, it listed all the glibc files (glibc, glibc-devel, glibc-common) that i was apparently missing.
 
  • #48
Arrr. This is exactly why I like emerge. It is just better at installing and keeping track of software. I just installed suse 9.2 on someones computer because they got pentrated for NOT CHANGING DEFAULT PASSWORDS. Actually it was partially my fault for forgetting to disable root login through ssh, but anyway. They previosly ran gentoo. The first thing that they complain to me about is how bad installing programs is. Even for myself it was a pain in the butt to install stuff. So know they are going back to gentoo.

The moral of the story:
If you had installed gentoo and typed: emerge icc, you would have been done a long time ago.
 
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  • #49
dduardo said:
Arrr. This is exactly why I like emerge. It is just better at installing and keeping track of software. I just installed suse 9.2 on someones computer because they got pentrated for NOT CHANGING DEFAULT PASSWORDS. Actually it was partially my fault for forgetting to disable root login through ssh, but anyway. They previosly ran gentoo. The first thing that they complain to me about is how bad installing programs is. Even for myself it was a pain in the butt to install stuff. So know they are going back to gentoo.

The moral of the story:
If you had installed gentoo and typed: emerge icc, you would have been done a long time ago.


Yeah, but oh well. Its working now, so no worries. Thanx for the input and help everyone.
 

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