Instantaneous Power calculation

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The discussion revolves around calculating instantaneous power from a given rate of energy increase expressed as a function of time. The problem is situated within the context of physics, specifically focusing on the relationship between work, energy, and power.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to derive the expression for instantaneous power using the provided rate of energy increase. Questions arise regarding the division by time and the interpretation of instantaneous versus average power. Some participants suggest reconsidering the approach to finding power as a derivative.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and questioning the assumptions made in the calculations. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the distinction between instantaneous and average power, and some guidance is offered regarding the relationship between energy and power.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the definitions and units involved, particularly the relationship between joules and watts. There is an acknowledgment of the need to derive the correct expression for instantaneous power without relying on average power calculations.

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Homework Statement


The energy of a system increases at a rate of 3.5t + 6.2t^2, in joules.
What is the instantaneous power at t=3.1 s?

Homework Equations


P=dW/dt
J/s=watt

The Attempt at a Solution


dW=3.5 + 12.4t
P=(3.5 + 12.4t joule) / (3.1s)=1.12 + 4t, in watts

Yes/ no?
 
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Le_Anthony said:

Homework Statement


The energy of a system increases at a rate of 3.5t + 6.2t^2, in joules.
What is the instantaneous power at t=3.1 s?

Homework Equations


P=dW/dt
J/s=watt

The Attempt at a Solution


dW=3.5 + 12.4t
P=(3.5 + 12.4t joule) / (3.1s)=1.12 + 4t, in watts

Yes/ no?

No.
 
dW=3.5 + 12.4t
No, it's dW/dt = 3.5 + 12.4t

Why did you divide by 3.1? What units would your answer have?
 
Le_Anthony said:

Homework Statement


The energy of a system increases at a rate of 3.5t + 6.2t^2, in joules.
What is the instantaneous power at t=3.1 s?

Homework Equations


P=dW/dt
J/s=watt

The Attempt at a Solution


dW=3.5 + 12.4t
P=(3.5 + 12.4t joule) / (3.1s)=1.12 + 4t, in watts

Yes/ no?
no, they are asking for the instantaneous power at t=3.1

why would the power at 3.1 secs be dependent on time?

1 watt does equal 1 joule per second.

I'll give you a few hints.
The average power dissipated during a time period is energy/ the time period. What happens when you decrease that time period to a very small value?

another hint. To find energy simply sum (integrate) the power. how do you go the other way?
 
donpacino said:
no, they are asking for the instantaneous power at t=3.1

why would the power at 3.1 secs be dependent on time?

1 watt does equal 1 joule per second.

I'll give you a few hints.
The average power dissipated during a time period is energy/ the time period. What happens when you decrease that time period to a very small value?

another hint. To find energy simply sum (integrate) the power. how do you go the other way?

So i just need to derive the equation and plug in 3.1s?
I divided by 3.1 because instantaneous power is derivative of work w/ respect to time.
 
Le_Anthony said:
So i just need to derive the equation and plug in 3.1s?
I divided by 3.1 because instantaneous power is derivative of work w/ respect to time.
which i now realize i was thinking of W/Δt.. oops
 

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