MHB Integral Calculus - Spot the Error

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The integral $$\int_1^{\infty}\frac1x \, dx$$ diverges because its antiderivative, $\ln|x|$, evaluates to infinity as the upper limit approaches infinity. The discussion highlights the importance of valid comparisons in integral calculus, emphasizing that the comparison test applies only to positive functions. It clarifies that both functions must be on the same side of the x-axis for the comparison test to be valid. Additionally, it notes that while comparisons can be made with negative functions, they must adhere to specific conditions to ensure convergence. Understanding these principles is crucial for correctly evaluating improper integrals.
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The big blue circle has been put there by my math prof to denote the location of the error in the following solution. Why is this an error? I'm lost. :(
 

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$$\int_1^{\infty}\frac1x \, dx$$
does not converge. If you were to try to get an antiderivative, the only candidate is $\ln|x|$, so formally, you'd have
$$\int_1^{\infty}\frac1x \, dx = \ln|x|\big|_{1}^{\infty} =\ln(\infty)-\ln(1)=\ln(\infty)=\infty.$$
So it doesn't converge.
 
Ah, so is it like we're not supposed to do the "by comparison" for integrals, especially when we don't know whether the integral will be equal to infinity or not? I mean, why didn't she just circle the "converges as well" part?
 
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MermaidWonders said:
Ah, so is it like we're not supposed to do the "by comparison" for integrals, especially when we don't know whether the integral will be equal to infinity or not? I mean, why didn't she just circle the "converges as well" part?

Comparison is fine, but it must be a VALID comparison. The idea would be capsulized as "closer to zero".

Bad Example: It is also true that for x > 1, we have -e^{x} < \dfrac{1}{x^{2}}, but that is not helpful.

In other words, your comparison must be on the same side of the x-axis.

... the only candidate is ln|x|...

This is a little excessive. For x \ge 1, we have \ln(x) as an additional candidate.
 
Can you explain what you mean by the fact that the "comparison must be on the same side of the x-axis"?
 
You error is that the "comparison test" applies only to positive functions. You cannot just say that [math]-\frac{1}{x}< \frac{1}{x^2}[/math]. Sometimes you can use the absolute value but it is NOT TRUE that [math]\left|-\frac{1}{x}\right|= \frac{1}{x}< \frac{1}{x^2}[/math].
 
Country Boy said:
You error is that the "comparison test" applies only to positive functions.

Well, BOTH positive, sure, but also BOTH negative would do.
 
tkhunny said:
Well, BOTH positive, sure, but also BOTH negative would do.

But "the other way around". If f(x) and g(x) are both positive with f(x)< g(x) and $\int g(x) dx$ converges then $\int f(x) dx$ converges.

If f(x) and g(x) are both negative and f(x)< g(x) (so that |g(x)|< |f(x)| and $\int f(x)dx$ converges then $\int g(x) dx$ converges.
 

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