Integral Domain, r^2 = r proof that r = 0 or 1

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The discussion revolves around proving that if \( r \) is an element of an integral domain \( R \) such that \( r^2 = r \), then \( r \) must be either \( 0_R \) or \( 1_R \). Participants explore the implications of the properties of integral domains, particularly the absence of zero divisors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss manipulating the equation \( r^2 = r \) and consider the implications of assuming \( r \) is neither \( 0_R \) nor \( 1_R \). There are attempts to factor the equation into \( r(r-1) = 0 \) and to clarify the meanings of \( 0_R \) and \( 1_R \) in the context of the proof.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the terminology and the nature of the identities in the ring, suggesting that it is acceptable to refer to \( 0_R \) and \( 1_R \) simply as \( 0 \) and \( 1 \) under certain conditions. There is a recognition of the correctness of the factorization approach, but no consensus on the completeness of the proof has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions of identities in the context of integral domains and discussing whether the notation \( 0_R \) and \( 1_R \) can be simplified without losing clarity. The discussion reflects a careful consideration of the assumptions underlying the proof.

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Homework Statement


Let r be an element of an integral domain R such that r^2 = r. Show that either r = 0_R or 1_R

Homework Equations


integral domain means no zero divisors.

The Attempt at a Solution



This is fundamental as 0 and 1 solve r^2 = r and are the only solutions.

However, I'm not really sure what I can play with to show this fact.

We have r*r = r
There are no zero divisors so no such thing as r*s = 0.

If we start this proof off by assuming r is not 1_R or 0_R then maybe we could get somewhere, but It doesn't feel promising.

There has to be a way to use the fact that r^2 = r.

(r^2)*r = r^2 ?
Then we are left with r*r = r, that's no good.

Is there any trick that I am neglecting? I feel this is just a simple multiplication of two things and boom we have r(r^2) = 0 or 1 or something.

How about r^2 - r = r-r
then we have
r(r-1)=0
r is either 0 or 1.

BOOM?
 
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When the problem talks about such things as 0_R and 1_R is it safe to assume that they just mean 0_R = 0 and 1_R =1 ?

For instance, my proof has the following:

r^2 = r
r^2 - r = r - r
r(1-r) = 0
Therefore r = 0 or r = 1

But is that a complete proof in consideration of 0_R and 1_R ?
 
RJLiberator said:

Homework Statement


Let r be an element of an integral domain R such that r^2 = r. Show that either r = 0_R or 1_R

Homework Equations


integral domain means no zero divisors.

The Attempt at a Solution



This is fundamental as 0 and 1 solve r^2 = r and are the only solutions.

However, I'm not really sure what I can play with to show this fact.

We have r*r = r
There are no zero divisors so no such thing as r*s = 0.

If we start this proof off by assuming r is not 1_R or 0_R then maybe we could get somewhere, but It doesn't feel promising.

There has to be a way to use the fact that r^2 = r.

(r^2)*r = r^2 ?
Then we are left with r*r = r, that's no good.

Is there any trick that I am neglecting? I feel this is just a simple multiplication of two things and boom we have r(r^2) = 0 or 1 or something.

How about r^2 - r = r-r
then we have
r(r-1)=0
r is either 0 or 1.

BOOM?
The last one is correct. BOOM! :oldsmile:
 
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Samy_A do you have a moment to check out my reply? I am wondering on the terminology of this problem. :)
 
RJLiberator said:
When the problem talks about such things as 0_R and 1_R is it safe to assume that they just mean 0_R = 0 and 1_R =1 ?

For instance, my proof has the following:

r^2 = r
r^2 - r = r - r
r(1-r) = 0
Therefore r = 0 or r = 1

But is that a complete proof in consideration of 0_R and 1_R ?
Yes. 0_R is the identity element for addition, 1_R is the identity element for multiplication. It is common to simply write them as 0 and 1, as long as it is clear what ring we are talking about.
 
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"0_R" and "1_R" specifically mean "the additive identity" and the "multiplicative identity" of the ring, R, respectively. I believe SamyA is saying that it is alright to drop the "R" if it is clear what ring you mean. You cannot assume that they are the numbers 0 and 1 if that was what you meant.
 
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