Integral of 1/x: Negative x Solution

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As we know, [itex]\int \frac {1}{x} \, dx = ln (x) + C[/itex]
But, what it would be, if [itex]x[/itex] is negative?
I calculated this way,
[itex]\int \frac {1}{x} \, dx = - \int \frac {1}{-x} \, dx = \int \frac {1}{-x} \, d(-x) = ln (-x) + C[/itex] [because, [itex]-x[/itex] has a positive value.]
 
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The variable ##x## can be either positive or negative because the fact is, [tex]\int \frac{1}{x} dx = \ln({|x|}) + C[/tex]
 
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The function 1/x is (maximally) defined at all points in R minus 0, the natural logarithm only at points >0. It turns out that ## \ln -x ## is not a valid expression in the reals, because it conflicts with the known ##\ln ab = \ln a + \ln b## by being forced to consider ##\ln -1##.
 
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The function 1/x is (maximally) defined at all points in R minus 0, the natural logarithm only at points >0. It turns out that ## \ln -x ## is not a valid expression in the reals, because it conflicts with the known ##\ln ab = \ln a + \ln b## by being forced to consider ##\ln -1##.

##ln(-x)## is a valid expression for negative x.

##\ln(ab) = \ln(a) + \ln(b)## is a property which is valid for positive a and b, it is not a definition of the logarithm. The property being unsatisfied for negatives has nothing to do with whether ##\ln(-x)## is defined or not.
 
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To maximize the confusion: ln(-x) = ln((-1)*x) = ln(-1) + ln(x) = iπ + ln(x)
 

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