Integral of 1+x2/(1+x4): Step-by-Step Solution

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The problem involves finding the indefinite integral of the expression (1 + x²)/(1 + x⁴), which is situated within the context of integral calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss potential methods for solving the integral, including substitution and partial fractions. There is a focus on the factorization of the denominator x⁴ + 1 and its implications for the integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the factorization of x⁴ + 1, while others express skepticism about its reducibility over the reals. There is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

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Participants note that x⁴ + 1 is irreducible over the rationals but can be factored into quadratics with real coefficients. There is also mention of the roots being complex, which may influence the approach to the integral.

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Homework Statement


find the indefinate integral of 1+x2/(1+x4)




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im having trouble trying to figure what to use to substitute into this equation
 
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I would do it by partial fractions. You can factor (x^4+1) into two real quadratics. The coefficients may not all be rational, but that's ok. Can you do that?
 
Dick said:
I would do it by partial fractions. You can factor (x^4+1) into two real quadratics. The coefficients may not all be rational, but that's ok. Can you do that?
I'd like to see that factorization. I've been under the impression for a long time that x^4 + 1 was irreducible over the reals.

If we allow complex numbers, the fourth roots of -1 (solutions of x^4 = -1) are
cos(pi/4) + i sin(pi/4)
cos(3pi/4) + i sin(3pi/4)
cos(5pi/4) + i sin(5pi/4)
cos(7pi/4) + i sin(7pi/4)
none of which are real.
 
(1+x^2)/(1+x^4) = 1/(1+(sqrt(2)*x+1)^2) + 1/(1+(sqrt(2)*x-1)^2)

I found this by tracking back from the answer, which is obtained using Maple.

For how to get this relation without referring to the answer, I'm not sure.
 
Mark44 said:
I'd like to see that factorization. I've been under the impression for a long time that x^4 + 1 was irreducible over the reals.

If we allow complex numbers, the fourth roots of -1 (solutions of x^4 = -1) are
cos(pi/4) + i sin(pi/4)
cos(3pi/4) + i sin(3pi/4)
cos(5pi/4) + i sin(5pi/4)
cos(7pi/4) + i sin(7pi/4)
none of which are real.

Ok. x^4+1=(x^2+sqrt(2)x+1)(x^2-sqrt(2)x+1). x^4+1 is irreducible over the RATIONALS, not over the REALS. Your roots group into two pairs of complex conjugates (of course). Use them to construct the quadratics.
 
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Dick said:
Ok. x^4+1=(x^2+sqrt(2)x+1)(x^2-sqrt(2)+1). x^4+1 is irreducible over the RATIONALS, not over the REALS. Your roots group into two pairs of complex conjugates (of course). Use them to construct the quadratics.
OK, let me rephrase: x^4 + 1 can't be factored into linear factors with real coefficients.
 

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