Integral of two-variable function

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation related to the rate of change of a current, described by the equation di/dt = i*A/(B+C*t). Participants explore methods for finding a closed-form solution for i(t) given an initial condition, while addressing challenges in calculus and integration techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially seeks assistance in solving the differential equation, expressing uncertainty due to a lack of recent practice in calculus.
  • Another participant questions the role of the constant C in the equation, seeking clarification on its relevance to the rate of change.
  • A different participant suggests rewriting the equation as a separable equation, proposing a method for integration.
  • One participant describes their approach using variable substitution and integration techniques to arrive at a solution for i(t).
  • A later reply provides a standard integration technique for the integral of A*dt/(B+C*t), suggesting a substitution method to simplify the integration process.

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Participants generally agree on the methods for solving the differential equation, but there is some uncertainty regarding the initial participant's understanding of the integration process and the role of the constant C.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the integration process and the specific conditions under which the solutions apply. The discussion does not clarify all mathematical steps involved in the integration.

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I'm working on a problem where the current i is described by the equation:

di/dt = i*A/(B+C*t)

The rate of change in i therefore depends on both i and t. I'm looking for a closed-form solution for i(t) given i(0)=I. I have to admit my calculus is pretty rusty and I'm having trouble figuring out how to solve that equation.

Can anyone offer some assistance or a push in the right direction? Thanks much.
 
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Forget it--I figured it out

OK, my apologies. I was able to solve the problem using variable substitution--basically, finding di/dC and then finding i(C). Sorry for the false alarm.
 
C is a constant?
 
? You say that the rate of change depends upon both i and t. So where does "C" come into this? Given that
[tex]\frac{di}{dt}= \frac{Ai}{B+ Ct}[/tex]
a "separable equation", you can rewrite it as
[tex]\frac{di}{i}= \frac{Adt}{B+ Ct}[/tex]
which can be integrated.
 
Yes, C is a constant. Looking back at my notes, it looks like what I did was to set q(t) = B+C*t, then di/dt = i*A/q, and since dq/dt = C, (di/dt)*(dt/dq) = di/dq = i*A/(C*q) and I then integrated (1/i)*di = (A/C)*(1/q)*dq to find i(q) and made some substitutions to find i(t).

But back to the original problem, where you left it is where I was stumped: what is the integral of A*dt/(B+C*t) ?
 
That's a fairly standard "Calculus II" problem. Let u= B+Ct so that du= Cdt and dt=du/C.
[tex]\int \frac{Adt}{B+ Ct}= A\int \frac{du/C}{u}= \frac{A}{C}\int \frac{du}{u}[/tex]
 
Ah, thanks. For some reason I have no specific memory of learning that, but apparently the lesson soaked in somehow and helped me figure it out. Thanks.
 

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