Integral of (x^2+y^2)^(-3/2)dy

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The discussion revolves around the integral of (x^2+y^2)^(-3/2) with respect to y, as presented in a Physics textbook. The original poster expresses difficulty in solving this integral and notes that the textbook does not provide a solution, suggesting a reliance on integral tables.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods attempted, including u-substitution and integration by parts (IBP). Some participants question the treatment of x as a constant and whether trigonometric substitution could be applied. There is also mention of a guide that was referenced for similar problems.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights and attempted different approaches, with some suggesting trigonometric substitution as a viable method. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, and while some participants have found solutions, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge posed by the negative exponent in the integral and the lack of available solution steps from WolframAlpha, which adds to the complexity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Hello, I came across an unusual integral problem in my Physics book that I could not solve. The book simply skips the work and says to check the integral tables, but I wasn't able to find one that satisfied this problem.

Homework Equations



This is the problem: integral of (x^2+y^2)^(-3/2)dy

The Attempt at a Solution



Tried u-sub, but the lack of y makes it impossible. Couldn't do trig sub because of the negative exponent.

When I plugged it into WolframAlpha, it gave me a tidy solution, but the solutions are unavailable even in their app. It loads for a bit and shows "solution unavailable."

The proper solution should be y/[(x^2)*√(x^2+y^2)]+constant.

Here is the actual URL:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral+of+(x^2+y^2)^(-3/2)dy&incTime=true

This is the second time coming across this integral in this chapter and I cannot solve it for the life of me. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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The x can be regarded as a constant, right? Is it part of a double integral? Can you use IBP?
 
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Yes, x could be regarded as a constant, and no, not a part of a double integral. The physics parts of the problem were constants, so I just uploaded the core variables.

IBP didn't work for me because when I used tabular integration because the derivative and integral of each part would continue indefinitely if that makes sense.

Also if it helps, I worked through my problem using this guide I found:
http://faculty.wwu.edu/vawter/PhysicsNet/Topics/ElectricForce/LineChargeDer.html

I only switched the x and y because my problem was a horizontal version of this example.
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by trig not working due to the negative exponent. I took a shot at it and got the same result as wolfram alpha. Try to take y = x tan \theta. so the integral becomes:

\int \frac{1}{(x^{2} + y^{2})^{\frac{3}{2}}} dx = \int \frac{sec^{2} \theta d\theta}{(x^{2} + x^{2}tan^{2} \theta)^{\frac{3}{2}}}

With trigonometric identities the solution should be easy.

Edit: wooah that LaTeX screw up, going to fix it.
 
Yes trigoniometrics is the way to go here.
 
Wow, that was easy. I don't know how that didn't spring to mind; I really need to brush up on my math haha.

Thank you!
 
FlyingButtress said:

Homework Statement



Hello, I came across an unusual integral problem in my Physics book that I could not solve. The book simply skips the work and says to check the integral tables, but I wasn't able to find one that satisfied this problem.

Homework Equations



This is the problem: integral of (x^2+y^2)^(-3/2)dy

The Attempt at a Solution



Tried u-sub, but the lack of y makes it impossible. Couldn't do trig sub because of the negative exponent.

When I plugged it into WolframAlpha, it gave me a tidy solution, but the solutions are unavailable even in their app. It loads for a bit and shows "solution unavailable."

The proper solution should be y/[(x^2)*√(x^2+y^2)]+constant.

Here is the actual URL:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral+of+(x^2+y^2)^(-3/2)dy&incTime=true

This is the second time coming across this integral in this chapter and I cannot solve it for the life of me. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

What do you mean that in Wolfram it gives a tidy solution, but the solutions are unavailable? When I click on your link it gives a solution.
 
Ray Vickson said:
What do you mean that in Wolfram it gives a tidy solution, but the solutions are unavailable? When I click on your link it gives a solution.

Oops, I left out a word there. Meant to say "solution steps." Usually in their app it shows the procedure of obtaining the solution. By "tidy" I meant that the end solution looked elegant and nothing like what I had on my paper at the time...
 

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