Integral of x^n using Reimann sums

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral of the function x^n using Riemann sums. Participants are exploring the implications of continuity and partitioning intervals for the integration process.

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  • One participant discusses partitioning an interval into N segments and calculating Riemann sums, questioning the validity of their approach. Another suggests using a different interval to simplify the problem, while others express curiosity about the solvability of the original method.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing different approaches and questioning the effectiveness of their methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding alternative approaches, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to proceed.

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Participants are considering the implications of using specific intervals and the continuity of the function, with some expressing uncertainty about the algebraic complexity of their approaches.

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Homework Statement
prove [tex] \int_{a}^{b} x^n dx = \frac{ b^{n+1} - a^{n+1}{n+1} [/tex] using left & right side sums for n greater than or equal to 1
Relevant Equations
Reimann upper & lower sums, Faulhaber's formula
We don't need to worry about the n = -1 so we can assume that the function is continuous on any interval [a,b] where a, b are real numbers

if I separate my interval into N partitions, then the right side values in my interval are
a + \frac{b-a}{N}, a + 2 \frac{b-a}{N}, ... , a + k \frac{b-a}{N}, ... , a + N\frac{b-a}{N}

then the right side sum is
\frac{b - a}{N} \left( \left((a + \frac{b-a}{N} \right)^n + \left( a + \frac{b-a}{N} \right)^n + ... b^n \right)

\frac{b-a}{N^{n+1}} \sum_{k = 1}^{N} \left( a + k(b-a) \right)^n

here is where i'm stuck. First of all, is this the right way to go about this?

or perhaps, should we use an interval like [0,a] (which I was able to prove easily) and then use instead?

\int_{a}^{b} f(x) dx = \int_{0}^{b} f(x) dx - \int_{0}^{a} f(x) dx

Thanks again for all your help!
 
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stunner5000pt said:
or perhaps, should we use an interval like [0,a] (which I was able to prove easily) and then use instead?

\int_{a}^{b} f(x) dx = \int_{0}^{b} f(x) dx - \int_{0}^{a} f(x) dx
That would certainly be a perfectly valid approach.
 
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PeroK said:
That would certainly be a perfectly valid approach.
Thanks a lot - it certainly seems much easier

Out of curiosity, is the 'direct' approach that I was taking above even solvable?
 
stunner5000pt said:
Thanks a lot - it certainly seems much easier

Out of curiosity, is the 'direct' approach that I was taking above even solvable?
It can't be much more difficult algebraically than the case where ##a = 0##.
 
Consider <br /> (n+1)x_i^n &lt; x_{i+1}^n + x_ix_{i+1}^{n-1} + \dots + x_i^kx_{i+1}^{n-k} + \dots + x_i^n&lt; (n+1)x_{i+1}^n since x_i &lt; x_{i+1}, and <br /> x_{i+1}^{n+1} - x_i^{n+1} = (x_{i+1}-x_i)(x_{i+1}^n + x_ix_{i+1}^{n-1} + \dots + x_i^kx_{i+1}^{n-k} + \dots + x_i^n)
 

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