MHB Integral on plane inside a cylinder

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The discussion focuses on calculating the integral $\iint_{\Sigma}(x^2+y^2)zdA$ over the plane defined by $z=4+x+y$, constrained within the cylinder $x^2+y^2=4$. The surface $\Sigma$ is defined as $\Sigma(x,y)=(x,y,4+x+y)$, with the domain $D$ being the area where $x^2+y^2\leq 4$. Participants suggest using cylindrical coordinates for simplification, as working in Cartesian coordinates can lead to complex expressions. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly defining the surface and the differential area element for the integration process.
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Hey! :o

I want to calculate $\iint_{\Sigma}(x^2+y^2)zdA$ on the part of the plane with equation $z=4+x+y$ that is inside the cylinder with equation $x^2+y^2=4$.

We can define the surface $\Sigma : D\rightarrow \mathbb{R}^3$ with $\Sigma (x,y)=(x,y,4+x+y)$, where $D$ is the space that is defined by $x^2+y^2\leq 4$, i.e. $D=\{(x,y)\mid x^2+y^2\leq 4\}$, right?

So, we get the following:
$$\iint_{\Sigma}(x^2+y^2)zdA=\iint_{D}(x^2+y^2)(4+x+y)dxdy$$

How can we continue? Do we use here cylindrical coordinates? (Wondering)
 
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Using "dxdy" as the differential you are projecting down to the xy-plane. That is the circle x^2+ y^2= 4 which you can cover by taking x from -2 to 2 and, for each x, y from -\sqrt{4- x^2} to -\sqrt{4- x^2}:
\int_{-2}^2\int_{-\sqrt{4- x^2}}^{\sqrt{4- x^2}} (x^2+ y^2)(x+ y+ 4) dydx

Or, in polar coordinates:
\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^2 r^2(rcos(\theta)+ rsin(\theta)+ 4)r drd\theta= \left(\int_0^{2\pi} cos(\theta)d\theta\right)\left(\int_0^2 r^3 dr\right)+ \left(\int_0^{2\pi} sin(\theta)d\theta\right)\left(\int_0^2 r^3dr\right)+ 8\pi\int_0^2 r^3 dr= 8\pi\int_0^2 r^3 dr
 
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mathmari said:
Hey! :o

I want to calculate $\iint_{\Sigma}(x^2+y^2)zdA$ on the part of the plane with equation $z=4+x+y$ that is inside the cylinder with equation $x^2+y^2=4$.

We can define the surface $\Sigma : D\rightarrow \mathbb{R}^3$ with $\Sigma (x,y)=(x,y,4+x+y)$, where $D$ is the space that is defined by $x^2+y^2\leq 4$, i.e. $D=\{(x,y)\mid x^2+y^2\leq 4\}$, right?

Yep. (Nod)

mathmari said:
So, we get the following:
$$\iint_{\Sigma}(x^2+y^2)zdA=\iint_{D}(x^2+y^2)(4+x+y)dxdy$$

What happened to $\| \Sigma_x \times \Sigma_y \|$? (Wondering)

mathmari said:
How can we continue? Do we use here cylindrical coordinates?

That is advisable yes.
As HallsofIvy showed, it's fairly straight forward in cylindrical coordinates.
Working out the cartesian expression is probably doable, but it becomes messy pretty quick. (Nerd)
 
Thank you so much! (Yes)
 
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