Integrate (x^2)exp(-x^2)dx from - to + infinity

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral ∫(x^2)exp(-x^2)dx, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics and expectation values. The original poster attempts to simplify the integral using a substitution and integration by parts, while some participants reference known results related to Gaussian integrals.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster explores substitution and integration by parts, questioning whether they are on the right track. Other participants suggest that the error function is unavoidable in this context and discuss methods for evaluating the definite integral using integration by parts and known results about Gaussian integrals.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering alternative methods and insights. There is recognition of the complexity of the integral and the limitations of the original poster's approach. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of known results to facilitate the evaluation of the integral.

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The original poster expresses a desire to avoid using the complementary error function or gamma function, which may influence the direction of the discussion. There is also a distinction between seeking an indefinite integral versus a definite integral, which is acknowledged by participants.

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Hello, I'm doing a quantum mechanics problem from Griffiths chapter 1 where I'm trying to find the expectation value of x^2 given the function ρ(x) = Aexp[-λ(x-μ)^2].
The problem is in the title, but I'll rewrite it here simplified:

∫(x^2)exp(-x^2)dx

Subbing u = x^2 <=> x = sqrt(u) => dx = -0.5(u^(-1/2))du which becomes

-0.5∫(u/sqrt(u))exp(u)du = -0.5∫ sqrt(u)exp(u)du

So from here I tried integration by parts, u = sqrt(u), du = -0.5u^(-3/2)du,
dv = exp(u)du, v = exp(u)

uv - ∫vdu = sqrt(u)exp(u) + 0.5∫u^(-3/2)exp(u)du

From here I equatted this with -0.5∫sqrt(u)exp(u)du and noted

u^(-3/2) = (u^(-1/2))*(u^-1) = (u^(-1/2))/u

so then I did the algebra and got:

∫u^(-1/2)exp(u)du = u^(-1/2)(u/(u-1))exp(u) = sqrt(u)exp(u)/(u-1)

Am I on the right track? I am aware I can do this with the complementary error function or the gamma function but I'm trying to avoid using them. Any help is appreciated thank you.
 
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clope023 said:
Hello, I'm doing a quantum mechanics problem from Griffiths chapter 1 where I'm trying to find the expectation value of x^2 given the function ρ(x) = Aexp[-λ(x-μ)^2].
The problem is in the title, but I'll rewrite it here simplified:

∫(x^2)exp(-x^2)dx

Subbing u = x^2 <=> x = sqrt(u) => dx = -0.5(u^(-1/2))du which becomes

-0.5∫(u/sqrt(u))exp(u)du = -0.5∫ sqrt(u)exp(u)du

So from here I tried integration by parts, u = sqrt(u), du = -0.5u^(-3/2)du,
dv = exp(u)du, v = exp(u)

uv - ∫vdu = sqrt(u)exp(u) + 0.5∫u^(-3/2)exp(u)du

From here I equatted this with -0.5∫sqrt(u)exp(u)du and noted

u^(-3/2) = (u^(-1/2))*(u^-1) = (u^(-1/2))/u

so then I did the algebra and got:

∫u^(-1/2)exp(u)du = u^(-1/2)(u/(u-1))exp(u) = sqrt(u)exp(u)/(u-1)

Am I on the right track? I am aware I can do this with the complementary error function or the gamma function but I'm trying to avoid using them. Any help is appreciated thank you.

You cannot avoid the error function, as it occurs in one term of the answer. Put it another way: if you could find a closed-form for the integral, involving only elementary functions, you could also find a closed, elementary form for the error function, and this is provably impossible.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
You cannot avoid the error function, as it occurs in one term of the answer.

Sure you can. The definite integral \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} x^2 e^{-x^2} dx (which from the thread title is what is actually desired) can be computed by applying integration by parts once with u=x and dv=x e^{-x^2} dx, and then computing \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-x^2} dx in the usual way (multiplying by \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-y^2} dy to give the square of the integral, converting this to a 2D integral in polar coordinates to easily compute it, and then taking the square root)
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Sure you can. The definite integral \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} x^2 e^{-x^2} dx (which from the thread title is what is actually desired) can be computed by applying integration by parts once with u=x and dv=x e^{-x^2} dx, and then computing \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-x^2} dx in the usual way (multiplying by \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-y^2} dy to give the square of the integral, converting this to a 2D integral in polar coordinates to easily compute it, and then taking the square root)

Of course the definite integral is doable---but not by the methods the OP posted. In the main body of the post the OP seemed to be wanting the indefinite integral, and I was responding to that.

RGV
 
Do you know the result

$$I(\alpha) = \int_{-\infty}^\infty dx~e^{-\alpha x^2} = \sqrt{\frac{\pi}{\alpha}}?$$

If you are allowed to use that result, you can find the values of the averages of ##x^{2n}## by supposing ##\alpha## is actually a variable parameter and taking derivatives with respect to it. e.g.,

$$I'(\alpha) = -\int_{-\infty}^\infty dx~x^2e^{-\alpha x^2} = -\langle x^2 \rangle_\alpha,$$
where I've used a subscript ##\alpha## to denote that it's still a variable, and you have to set ##\alpha## to be whatever it is supposed to be in your original integral.

This is by far the slickest way to get Gaussian averages, in my opinion.
 
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