Integrating 1/xln(x) using integration by parts

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The forum discussion focuses on the integration of the function 1/xln(x) using integration by parts. The user initially attempts to solve the integral through substitution, yielding ln(ln(x)) + C. However, when applying integration by parts, the user encounters a contradiction leading to the equation I = 1 - I, which simplifies to I = 1/2. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying differentiation rules and the constant of integration, ultimately confirming that the substitution method is valid while the integration by parts approach leads to an incorrect conclusion.

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Homework Statement


Integrating 1/xlnx by parts...

Homework Equations


Find the integral of 1/xlnx

The question asks to solve by substitution, which I can do and results in ln(ln(x)) + c

It then asks to compute using integration by parts, and then to explain how it can be true (because it will compute something different to substitution).

The Attempt at a Solution


I = uv - int (v dU)

let u= 1/lnx du = 1/x(lnx)^2
let dv = 1/x, v = lnx

Sub into the parts formula

I = lnx* 1/lnx - int (lnx/x(lnx)^2)
I = lnx/lnx - int (1/xlnx) <--- what we started with
I = 1 - int (1/xlnx) This is 1 - I, the integral we began with...

I've bene shown this trick where you can go..
I = 1- I
2I = 1
I = 1/2

I'm not sure if this is correct, but I would appreciate any help

Thank you
 
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It is correct
 
Thank you for the quick reply. I'm also asked to explain how I = 1/2 can be true, when using substitution yields ln(ln(x)). This is basically where I am stuck.

Thank you
 
ln(ln(x)) is correct.
Regarding Integration by parts, you have missed -ve sign in differentiating u
It will be
I=1+I
resulting in 1=0 which is wrong.
 
n.karthick said:
ln(ln(x)) is correct.
Regarding Integration by parts, you have missed -ve sign in differentiating u
It will be
I=1+I
resulting in 1=0 which is wrong.

No, it results in 1 = C.
 
I can see I've missed the negative which changes it quite a bit.

Is the integration by parts correct for C=1? It hasn't really solved the integral, or am I missing something here?
 
Typically, you'll see this problem as an example of why it's so important to remember the constant of integration, because otherwise you end up with nonsense like 1 = 0.
 

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