Integrating by Parts: Solving a Sin x Problem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the integral of the function $\sin(\sqrt{x})$ using integration by parts. Participants explore various approaches and substitutions to simplify the integration process, focusing on the application of integration techniques and potential pitfalls such as sign errors.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the initial integral and applies integration by parts, expressing the integral in terms of a new integral involving $\cos(\sqrt{x})$.
  • Another participant suggests a substitution $w=\sqrt{x}$ to facilitate further integration by parts, indicating the need to be cautious of sign errors.
  • A subsequent post reformulates the integral after substitution, leading to a new expression that still requires integration by parts.
  • Another participant proposes a different approach by letting $w=\sqrt{x}$ and directly integrating, resulting in a simplified expression for the integral.
  • One participant highlights a quicker method to reach the same result, emphasizing the efficiency of their approach while inviting others to continue the integration process.
  • The final posts reiterate the result of the integration, confirming the expression for the integral after back-substituting for $w$.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the final expression for the integral, but there are multiple approaches and methods discussed, indicating that no single method is universally accepted as the best. The discussion remains exploratory with various techniques being proposed.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention potential sign errors and the need for careful substitution, suggesting that the integration process may depend on specific choices made during the calculations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners interested in integration techniques, particularly those studying calculus or working on problems involving trigonometric integrals and substitutions.

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\\text{w8.4.13 Integration by Parts} nmh{2000}
$\displaystyle
I=\int \sin\left({\sqrt{x}}\right) \ d{t}
=2\sin\left({\sqrt{x}}\right)
-2\sqrt{x}\cos\left({\sqrt{x}}\right)+C$

$\begin{align}
\displaystyle
u& = {\sin\left({\sqrt{x}}\right)} &
dv&={1} \ dx \\ \\
du&={\frac{\cos\left({\sqrt{x}}\right)}{2\sqrt{x}}} dx&
v& ={x}
\end{align}$

$\displaystyle uv-\int v \ du $

$\displaystyle
I=
x\sin\left({\sqrt{x}}\right)
-\int \frac{x\cos\left(\sqrt{x}\right)}{2\sqrt{x}} \ dx $

$\text{now what ... or is there a better way to do this? } $
 
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So far so good, I say! Now make the sub $w=\sqrt{x}$ and use integration by parts again. Watch out for sign errors and the like.
 
$\displaystyle
w=\sqrt{x} \ \ \ x={w}^{2}$

$\displaystyle
I=
w^2 \sin\left({w}\right)
-\int
\frac{w^2 \cos\left(w\right)}
{2w } \ dw$
$\displaystyle
I=w^2 \sin\left({w}\right)
-\frac{1}{2}\int w\cos\left({w}\right) \ dw $

So far...
 
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I think I would first let:

$$w=\sqrt{x}\,\therefore\,dx=2w\,dw$$

And we have:

$$I=2\int w\sin(w)\,dw$$

Now apply IBP:

$$u=w\,\therefore\,du=dw$$

$$dv=\sin(w)\,\therefore\,v=-\cos(w)$$

And we have:

$$I=2\left(-w\cos(w)+\int \cos(w)\,dw\right)=-2w\cos(w)+2\sin(w)+C$$

Now back-substitute for $w$:

$$I=2\sin(\sqrt{x})-2\sqrt{x}\cos(\sqrt{x})+C$$
 
Much quicker! At any rate, you may wish to try

$$\int\dfrac{x\cos(\sqrt x)}{2\sqrt x}\,dx$$

$$w=\sqrt x.\quad dw=\dfrac{1}{2\sqrt x}\,dx$$

$$\int w^2\cos w\,dw=w^2\sin w-2\int w\sin w\,dw$$

IBP again:

$$\int w^2\cos w\,dw=w^2\sin w-\left(-2w\cos w+2\int\cos w\,dw\right)$$

Can you continue?
 
$$I=-2w\cos(w)+2\int \cos(w)\,dw=-2w\cos(w)+2\sin(w)+C$$
back-substitute for $w$ then

$$I=2\sin(\sqrt{x})-2\sqrt{x}\cos(\sqrt{x})+C$$

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