Integrating f(x,y) with Known p^2

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The discussion revolves around integrating the function f(x,y) = xy over a specified region defined by the parameters px and py, where the relationship p^2 = px^2 + py^2 is known. The original poster is seeking clarification on how to determine the limits of integration for both variables given that only the value of p is known.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the integration of the function over a defined region and questioning how to express the limits for py based on the known value of p. There is also a discussion about the nature of the integration, with some participants suggesting a one-dimensional approach along a curve.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the integration process and questioning the setup of the problem. There are suggestions for re-evaluating the approach to integration, particularly regarding the representation of the integration limits and the dimensionality of the problem.

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Participants note that the components px and py are not known, which adds complexity to determining the limits of integration. The original poster is working within the constraints of a homework assignment that requires careful consideration of the integration setup.

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Say I have the function f(x,y) = xy, and I want to integrate f(x,y) from (0,0) to some (px, py), where I know p^2 = p_x^2+p_y^2. What I have done is to write

<br /> p_x ^2 + p_y ^2 = p^2 <br />

so the limits for px run from \pm \sqrt {p^2 - p_y ^2 }. Now, how about the limits for py? Note, that I only know the value of p, not px or py.
 
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Are you doing something like this?
\int \int_D xy dA

How would you describe the region D over which integration is taking place?
 
I am doing

<br /> \int \int_l xy dxdy<br />

The line l is the diagonal going from (0,0) to some p, which is known (but whose components are now known). My issue is that I am not sure how to express the second variable (as in my OP).
 
Niles said:
I am doing

<br /> \int \int_l xy dxdy<br />

The line l is the diagonal going from (0,0) to some p, which is known (but whose components are now known). My issue is that I am not sure how to express the second variable (as in my OP).

If you are trying integrate f(x,y)=xy along a curve 'l', then it's a one dimensional integration. You don't want to integrate dx*dy. Write the contour 'l' as a function of a single variable, say 't'. Then integrate dt.
 

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