Integration by parts, why is this allowed?

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The discussion clarifies the application of integration by parts, specifically in the context of integrating \(\int \ln{x} \, dx\). Participants confirm that the choice of \(dv = dx\) and \(u = \ln(x)\) is valid, as \(v\) is derived from \(dv\) and does not need to be present in the original integral. The formula used is \(\int u \, dv = uv - \int v \, du\), emphasizing that \(v\) is calculated after selecting \(dv\). This understanding is crucial for correctly applying integration by parts in calculus.

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  • Knowledge of differentiation and how to compute \(du\) from \(u\).
  • Ability to manipulate logarithmic functions, specifically \(\ln(x)\).
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I'm following this example where it is asked to integrate [math]\int \ln{x} dx[/math] using integration by parts. I don't understand how it's legal to set v=x since the only x in the equation is the argument of ln and that's already accounted for by u.
 
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Re: integration by parts, why is this allowed?

We are actually setting:

$$u=\ln(x)\,\therefore\,du=\frac{1}{x}\,dx$$

$$dv=dx\,\therefore\,v=x$$
 
Re: integration by parts, why is this allowed?

MarkFL said:
We are actually setting:

$$u=\ln(x)\,\therefore\,du=\frac{1}{x}\,dx$$

$$dv=dx\,\therefore\,v=x$$

Ok I think I get it. So with integration by parts you choose dv before you calculate v? In other words dv has to be part of the original equation but v does not?
 
Re: integration by parts, why is this allowed?

find_the_fun said:
Ok I think I get it. So with integration by parts you choose dv before you calculate v? In other words dv has to be part of the original equation but v does not?

Correct...integration by parts states:

$$\int u\,dv=uv-\int v\,du$$

So, you want to choose a $u$ and a $dv$, and then from these compute $du$ and $v$.
 
Any time you use "integration by parts",
\int udv= uv- \int v du, there is NO "v" in the original integral. You get it by your choice of "dv".

Here, the choice is dv= dx, u= ln(x).
 
If it helps you can think of

$$\int \ln(x) dx = \int \left(1 \times \ln(x) \right)dx$$

Then you can set $$\frac{dv}{dx} = 1$$ and $$u = \ln(x)$$
 

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