Integration (displacement or position)

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The discussion focuses on the integration challenge in a physics problem involving thrust, mass, and acceleration. The equation mg - uk - m*a is set up with known constants and variables for velocity and acceleration. The user attempts to manipulate the equation to prepare for integration but encounters difficulties, particularly with the left side of the equation. They correctly identify the integration of the right side as yielding -1/3000s + c, while seeking guidance on properly integrating the left side. The goal is to determine the displacement (s) when the velocity (v) reaches zero, using initial conditions provided.
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Homework Statement


the trouble is in the integration on the left side (go straight o my answer down the bottom of the page)... please help me...

mg-u-kv=m*a

where (all constant)
m= mass= 3000
g=gravity=10
u=thrust=172000
k=30

v=velocity=variable
a=acceleration=variable


Homework Equations



accel=v*dv/ds=dv/dt=a

The Attempt at a Solution



30000-172000-30v = 3000*v*dv/ds
-142000-30v = 3000*v*dv/ds
-(142000+30v) = 3000*v*dv/ds
142000+30v = -3000*v*dv/ds
(142000+30v)/v*dv = -3000*ds
v/(142000+30v)*dv = -1/3000*ds

and then integrate both sides, this is where my calculus stops

i know the right side (-1/3000*ds) becomes -1/3000s + c
where
s= displacement or position and
c= constant
i have 2 scenarios

when s=0, v=1000
and what i need to find is when v=0 what is s?


so once i integrate the left side i sub those values in.
 
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kieran1black2 said:
(142000+30v)/v*dv = -3000*ds
v/(142000+30v)*dv = -1/3000*ds

Are you sure about this transition?
 
if you think you can do it without that transition... go for it... that's just how i interpreted the question
 
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