Calculators Integration using a TI-89 produces wrong value?

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The discussion centers on issues with integration results from a TI-89 calculator in a Differential Equations course. The user encounters discrepancies in the integral of (x+1) and 3/(100+2*x), receiving incorrect outputs from the calculator. The confusion arises from the calculator treating (x+1) as a simple sum rather than a product and the logarithmic properties affecting the integral results. It is clarified that the differences in answers are due to arbitrary constants in indefinite integrals, which do not affect definite integrals. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes understanding the properties of logarithms and constants in integration.
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Hi Physics Forum,

I've just started taking Diff EQ and have been using my calculator for most integrations. I've come across two problems that I hope have answers.

1) When I try the integral of (x+1) (the quantity! not just x+1), my calculator still spits out (x^2/2)+x while the real answer should be (-(x+1)^2)/2. Is there a way to make my calculator identify (x+1) as the quantity (or is it factor? I forgot the actual term) rather than just x+1?

2) When I integrate 3/(100+2*x) I'm getting 3/2 * ln(x+50). However, I'm 99% sure the answer should be 3/2 * ln(100+2x). What am I/the calculator doing wrong?

Any and all answers are appreciated, thanks so much!
 
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\frac 3 {100+2x} = \frac 3 {2(50+x)}
 
Borek said:
\frac 3 {100+2x} = \frac 3 {2(50+x)}

This is where I'm confused. Multiple integral tables say that that

the integral of 1/(ax+c) is (1/a) * ln(ax+c). This would yield 3/2 * ln(100+2*x) where as the integral of your answer would yield 3/2 * ln(50+x). So I'm left with two different answers to choose from.

Either 3/2 * ln(100+2*x) or 3/2 * ln(50+x). Very curious =x
 
In both your examples, the difference in the "answers" is just a constant, so you can think of it as part of the arbitrary constant in an indefinite integral.

If you are going to evaluate a definite integral, the arbitrary constant cancels out so it doesn't matter.

In the first example the difference is the constant 1/2.

In the second example, from the properties of logarithms,
log(100 +2x) = log(2(50 + x)) = log(50+x) + log 2.
 
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