Interaction between matter and antimatter in Dirac equation

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The discussion revolves around the interaction between matter and antimatter as described by the Dirac equation, focusing on the relationships between their derivatives and the implications for understanding relativistic quantum mechanics and quantum field theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the interaction between matter and antimatter, noting that the time derivative of matter seems dependent on the spatial derivative of antimatter, and vice versa, which they find counterintuitive.
  • Another participant requests clarification on what specifically is confusing, suggesting that a mathematical approach might help.
  • A participant references the Dirac equation, questioning the roles of the components of the Dirac spinor, specifically identifying which components correspond to matter and which to antimatter.
  • Another participant corrects the assumption that the Dirac spinors simplify to two-component solutions in the non-relativistic case, emphasizing that the four-component structure is essential in general.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the Dirac equation and the roles of its components, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the matter.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the implications of the derivatives in the Dirac equation and the specific roles of the spinor components, which depend on the context of their application.

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Confusing interaction between matter and antimatter in Dirac equation.
I'm new to relativistic quantum mechanics and quantum field theory and was trying to learn about the Dirac equation.

Unfortunately, I got a little stumped by the interaction between matter and antimatter.

It seems like the time derivative of matter is dependent on the spatial derivative of antimatter, but not the spatial derivative of matter. Likewise, the time derivative of antimatter is dependent on the spatial derivative of matter, but not the spatial derivative of antimatter.

To me this means that if there is momentum of matter, then the antimatter field should be changing, which doesn't make sense to me.

I find this counterintuitive and was hoping that someone could explain this to me.
 
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lagrangman said:
Summary:: Confusing interaction between matter and antimatter in Dirac equation.

It seems like the time derivative of matter is dependent on the spatial derivative of antimatter, but not the spatial derivative of matter.
What makes you think that?
 
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lagrangman said:
Summary:: Confusing interaction between matter and antimatter in Dirac equation.

I'm new to relativistic quantum mechanics and quantum field theory and was trying to learn about the Dirac equation.

Unfortunately, I got a little stumped by the interaction between matter and antimatter.

It seems like the time derivative of matter is dependent on the spatial derivative of antimatter, but not the spatial derivative of matter. Likewise, the time derivative of antimatter is dependent on the spatial derivative of matter, but not the spatial derivative of antimatter.

To me this means that if there is momentum of matter, then the antimatter field should be changing, which doesn't make sense to me.

I find this counterintuitive and was hoping that someone could explain this to me.
You could read this and tell us precisely what you don't understand. A liitle mathematics might help:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_spinor
 
Isn't the first row of the dirac equation
$$i\frac{\partial \psi_1}{\partial t} = m \psi_1 - i \frac{\partial \psi_4}{\partial x} - i \frac{\partial \psi_4}{\partial y} - i \frac{\partial \psi_3}{\partial z}$$

I was under the impression that ##\psi_1## and ##\psi_2## were matter and ##\psi_3## and ##\psi_4## were antimatter.
 
lagrangman said:
Isn't the first row of the dirac equation
$$i\frac{\partial \psi_1}{\partial \t} = m \psi_1 - i \frac{\partial \psi_4}{\partial x} - i \frac{\partial \psi_4}{\partial y} - i \frac{\partial \psi_3}{\partial z}$$

I was under the impression that ##\psi_1## and ##\psi_2## were matter and ##\psi_3## and ##\psi_4## were antimatter.
Not quite. The Dirac spinors for both particles and antiparticles have four components. In the non-relativistic case, the solutions simplify to approximately two-component solutions, but not in general.
 
Thanks, very helpful.
 

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